How is a care provider stealing medication from patients sympathy-worthy? That situation is way worse than someone just stealing drugs because a care provider has legal and ethical obligations to care for a patient.
I think it’s sympathy worthy because of the fact she wasn’t doing it to spite her patients. She was doing it because she was suffering from an addiction, and addiction makes people do things that they wouldn’t normally do.
So it’s humanizing his mother and saying she was someone who was caught up in something that was too big for her to control and that is sad.
That doesn’t excuse the fact that she raised a piece of shit child, or that she hurt people from her addiction. It just sets all of that to the side to focus on the one specific thing that someone with empathy can sympathize over.
As someone who grew up with a sibling who became an addict, leading them from being just a regular asshole to being downright abusive on top of all of the theft, volatility, and other drug-related issues…
Yeah. Still, it took me some 15 years or so to reach that line of relative forgiveness.
I fully agree with you. I am a recovering addict in a substitution program (my doctors hooked me up with fent matrix patches to control my back pain which i started to abuse), and while i did not steal because medication is cheap where i live, i lied to so many doctors to get my fix and i lied to everyone around me to cover up for my fucked up state. Before, i was pretty much someone who wouldn’t have considered going to a doctor and lying to him to get meds - addiction brought out the worst in me.
Addicts deserve sympathy, of course. Medical professionals, who get high by stealing from patients while they’re supposed to be working with said patients, DO 👏 NOT 👏 DESERVE 👏 SYMPATHY 👏. She was responsible for the health and well-being of vulnerable people and she took advantage of that in two different ways. Fuck that, fuck her.
Because it’s driven by intense desperation. You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence. You can’t advance as a society without being able to break unhealthy cycles. So yes, monstrous but sympathy-worthy
It makes JD even more of a piece of shit because how do you grow up around something like that and then go to work for the party who’s protecting those companies from being held liable for their epidemic. This fentanyl bullshit is all a smokescreen to protect pharma and make people forget the problem was HOME GROWN.
I’m sure you don’t mean it that way, but I think even the phrase “be the way that they are” is lacking empathy and looking at it the wrong way. It’s not about the way that they are; it’s about the way that they are handling the stressors in their life.
No. I said that a medical professional who steals from patients is not sympathy-worthy, and that is not ambushing anyone. Also I didn’t say that people who are dealing with addiction are not worthy of sympathy. She is however, an asshole because she is a medical professional who harmed patients.
“You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence.” —you, putting a lot of words and concepts into my post that I didn’t say or endorse and that makes what I said look negative and makes you look good. You can’t advance a society without breaking your own unhealthy cycles of lying for Internet points.
You’re digging into my extreme time crunch comment and finding hard nuggets. I assure you, each and every one of them was a kernel of corn. I wasn’t attacking you, I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.
“I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.”
Lol you’ve completely misrepresented what I said in my comments and supplanted your own reality to, again, make yourself look good. And a visible understanding of addiction counseling? Lol. Lamo even. We at no point were talking about addiction counseling.
I don’t mean to sound rude, but I don’t see this conversation going anywhere positive. You’re entirely too upset and I’m entirely too indifferent. If anyone asks, tell them you won this conversation and I’ll corroborate. Here’s an updoot
How is a care provider stealing medication from patients sympathy-worthy? That situation is way worse than someone just stealing drugs because a care provider has legal and ethical obligations to care for a patient.
I think it’s sympathy worthy because of the fact she wasn’t doing it to spite her patients. She was doing it because she was suffering from an addiction, and addiction makes people do things that they wouldn’t normally do.
So it’s humanizing his mother and saying she was someone who was caught up in something that was too big for her to control and that is sad.
That doesn’t excuse the fact that she raised a piece of shit child, or that she hurt people from her addiction. It just sets all of that to the side to focus on the one specific thing that someone with empathy can sympathize over.
As someone who grew up with a sibling who became an addict, leading them from being just a regular asshole to being downright abusive on top of all of the theft, volatility, and other drug-related issues…
Yeah. Still, it took me some 15 years or so to reach that line of relative forgiveness.
I fully agree with you. I am a recovering addict in a substitution program (my doctors hooked me up with fent matrix patches to control my back pain which i started to abuse), and while i did not steal because medication is cheap where i live, i lied to so many doctors to get my fix and i lied to everyone around me to cover up for my fucked up state. Before, i was pretty much someone who wouldn’t have considered going to a doctor and lying to him to get meds - addiction brought out the worst in me.
Addicts deserve sympathy, of course. Medical professionals, who get high by stealing from patients while they’re supposed to be working with said patients, DO 👏 NOT 👏 DESERVE 👏 SYMPATHY 👏. She was responsible for the health and well-being of vulnerable people and she took advantage of that in two different ways. Fuck that, fuck her.
Because it’s driven by intense desperation. You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence. You can’t advance as a society without being able to break unhealthy cycles. So yes, monstrous but sympathy-worthy
It makes JD even more of a piece of shit because how do you grow up around something like that and then go to work for the party who’s protecting those companies from being held liable for their epidemic. This fentanyl bullshit is all a smokescreen to protect pharma and make people forget the problem was HOME GROWN.
I’m sure you don’t mean it that way, but I think even the phrase “be the way that they are” is lacking empathy and looking at it the wrong way. It’s not about the way that they are; it’s about the way that they are handling the stressors in their life.
I lacked the verbiage to describe what I meant in the 30 seconds I had available to reply. It was just vaguely phrased, but you’re right
No. I said that a medical professional who steals from patients is not sympathy-worthy, and that is not ambushing anyone. Also I didn’t say that people who are dealing with addiction are not worthy of sympathy. She is however, an asshole because she is a medical professional who harmed patients. “You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence.” —you, putting a lot of words and concepts into my post that I didn’t say or endorse and that makes what I said look negative and makes you look good. You can’t advance a society without breaking your own unhealthy cycles of lying for Internet points.
You’re digging into my extreme time crunch comment and finding hard nuggets. I assure you, each and every one of them was a kernel of corn. I wasn’t attacking you, I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.
“I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.”
Lol you’ve completely misrepresented what I said in my comments and supplanted your own reality to, again, make yourself look good. And a visible understanding of addiction counseling? Lol. Lamo even. We at no point were talking about addiction counseling.
I don’t mean to sound rude, but I don’t see this conversation going anywhere positive. You’re entirely too upset and I’m entirely too indifferent. If anyone asks, tell them you won this conversation and I’ll corroborate. Here’s an updoot