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    God dammit the DNC pisses me off. Why can’t they act like human beings for just five fucking minutes.

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    I think he wins the primary and likely the election… I think the writing is on the wall. He’s enough of a both-sideser that I honestly believe a lot of “never trump” Republicans and Republicans that want to pretend they were “never trump” will vote for him. He’s enough of a neoliberal that establishment and “mainstream democrats” (white moderates) fellate him. I fucking hate his guts. Thatcher-esque.

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      I think he wins the primary, pivots harder to the right to pick up more Republicans, and blows it.

      Just kidding, I don’t expect those elections to happen in the first place

  • spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.orgOP
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    Newsom’s consent factory has been in full swing, trying to position him as the frontrunner for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination.

    he has a D next to his name, but he’s not a Democrat. he’s a Diet Republican, and this is the most recent example.

    if he’s the nominee in 2028, I’m not voting for him. piss and moan and scold me all you want, it will not change my mind. I have a “purity test” that I will only vote for Democrats who actually believe in human rights.

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      I agree with you. He’s 100% rallying up a presidential bid, and what worries me most is I see other liberals idolizing him, reposting his tweets at Trump, praising him as able to destroy Trump… Who knows if we’ll even have an election, but Newsom’s sure poising himself to waltz right in.

      People need to stop posting Newsom tweets, and instead post content like this that frames Newsom as the corporate shill he is. Newsom is crushing homeless encampments, Newsom created the “CARE” courts that stripped autonomy from the mentally ill, Newsom is attacking transgender youth; and Newsom is going to continue doing all of this, harder, to poise himself as a “middle ground” between rational people and fascists – instead of upholding his responsibility to protect California residents.

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        It seems like he’s been on a warpath in recent months, attempting to tackle Trump in as many positions as possible. I’ve at least noticed him a lot more on social media than other politicians. I think the way he’s positioning himself is smart.

        I don’t think he’s good though. He says a lot that seems to be alright, but i agree with you. He gives me politician vibes like the majority of american and canadian politicians. In it for the money and power. Tbh I feel like the whole system needs to be replaced.

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          My fear is that, in the event that we get a fair 2028 election, Gavin Newsom will be pioneered as the golden child, as Joe Biden was in 2020 – drowning out the actual Leftist voices. Then those progressives are pressured to drop out because this election is sooo important. Cue a Newsom presidency where we get 4 years of macro-economic recovery while the common folk suffer, and then the cycle repeats.

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      Unfortunately if the choice is between someone who will make no progress and someone who will actively cause or encourage harm, I have to choose the option that minimizes harm.

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        I made that mistake with Biden in 2020 and now realize we would now be better off if Trump had won. I’m not doing that again. No more shitty Democrats paving the way for even worse Republicans.

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        I’m well aware of the lesser-of-two-evils / voting-as-harm-reduction argument. I even accept it in some cases (eg, I’d be willing to vote for Pritzker, even though he’s a billionaire nepo baby who used inherited wealth to buy his way into politics)

        I’m not willing to extend it to Newsom. he is not “harm reduction”. he is promoting harm against trans people.

        Newsom said in an interview that he thought trans people should maybe be forced to wait until 25 years old before they’re allowed to medically transition

        that’s rooted in bullshit science about “your brain keeps developing until you’re 25”

        but Newsom agrees with the Oklahoma Republican Party on that subject

        here is the record of the bill Newsom just vetoed. it passed the state assembly with 78% of the vote, and the state senate with 75% of the vote.

        he’s supposedly a Democrat…and yet he’s in opposition to something that other Democrats in California overwhelmingly supported. and meanwhile he’s in agreement with the fucking Oklahoma Republican Party?

        to quote Black Panther - is this your king? is this your “harm reduction”?

        also, separate from my personal dislike of him, if Newsom is the nominee in 2028 he will lose. I don’t like making political predictions but I feel pretty confident in that one. so even if you believe that political principles are for suckers and the only thing that matters is having a warm body in the office with a (D) next to their name…you should still oppose Newsom.

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          Honestly, that last part is most relevant imo. No Republican is going to vote for a Democrat California governor. Doesn’t matter if he’s pulling the levers they want him to.

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          When the alternative is literal fascism, then yes, he would be harm reduction.

          I do oppose Newsom. In a primary.

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          Harm reduction is shoved down the throats of people living under first-past-the-past while they gleefully try to get distract the people away from proportional representation in Portland and contribution limits.

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            Considering the other side is – in multiple states – outright outlawing proportional representation, voting for the person not actively making that goal more difficult is, definitionally, still harm reduction.

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        But this shows he is against progress and supports positions that cause active harm. We have to choose a different option to get change.