Oh yes, also ‘wind turbines need oil lubricant’ - checkmate environmentalists.
Never mind that they use a tiny fraction of the fossil fuels of a gas or coal plant.
‘Any step towards reducing fossil fuels is completely pointless if it uses even a tiny shred of fossil fuels’ is some deeply stupid logic that they keep falling back on.
Interesting to note that this is being spearheaded by lower-income developing nations.
There were those on the left who were worried that the phase out of fossil fuels would be like the developed nations pulling the ladder up behind themselves. But with the way things are going now countries in the global south may actually end up leapfrogging the imperial core, as they build out cleaner and more advanced infrastructure.
This had always been a faulty line of thinking by those who claim that the less-developed world would start to use as many resources as the developed world already had.
Like, no. Why would theY bury copperlines all over the place instead of just going mobile directly. Rinse and repeat for everything else - like using solar instead of coal.
Arguments I’ve heard from conservatives on the street usually amount to, “That solution isn’t 100%. Not good enough.”
No, solar can’t cover 100% of our energy needs.
No, taxing the snot out of the rich doesn’t magically solve our financial problems.
They seem to have this all-or-none idea about problem solving. I suspect that comes from Fox News propaganda and not an inborn quality like their lack of empathy.
Those on the left also tend towards simplistic solutions, you can see it on lemmy everyday. But they’re far more reasonable about taking healthy steps rather than trashing partial solutions.
Every right winger 5 years ago: Impossible!
Every right winger today: lies!
Every right winger tomorrow: “But think of all the diesel trucks that have to drive and service the wind turbines!” (an actual thing I’ve heard)
Oh yes, also ‘wind turbines need oil lubricant’ - checkmate environmentalists.
Never mind that they use a tiny fraction of the fossil fuels of a gas or coal plant.
‘Any step towards reducing fossil fuels is completely pointless if it uses even a tiny shred of fossil fuels’ is some deeply stupid logic that they keep falling back on.
Vegans get told this all the time.
Interesting to note that this is being spearheaded by lower-income developing nations.
There were those on the left who were worried that the phase out of fossil fuels would be like the developed nations pulling the ladder up behind themselves. But with the way things are going now countries in the global south may actually end up leapfrogging the imperial core, as they build out cleaner and more advanced infrastructure.
Yup, with people stupidly voting against climate action in Canada, US and Europe.
This had always been a faulty line of thinking by those who claim that the less-developed world would start to use as many resources as the developed world already had.
Like, no. Why would theY bury copperlines all over the place instead of just going mobile directly. Rinse and repeat for everything else - like using solar instead of coal.
Conservatives parroting fossil fuel propaganda):
China:
Just does the thing
Arguments I’ve heard from conservatives on the street usually amount to, “That solution isn’t 100%. Not good enough.”
No, solar can’t cover 100% of our energy needs.
No, taxing the snot out of the rich doesn’t magically solve our financial problems.
They seem to have this all-or-none idea about problem solving. I suspect that comes from Fox News propaganda and not an inborn quality like their lack of empathy.
Those on the left also tend towards simplistic solutions, you can see it on lemmy everyday. But they’re far more reasonable about taking healthy steps rather than trashing partial solutions.
It’s like the conspiracy mind, one small idea and it either makes or breaks everything.
China does both. They have also heavily expanded their coal usage
They always say anything “good is impossible”