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      With regard to Israel/Palestine, both sides are infested with religious dogma, but Israel is an invader of Palestine. Israel should have no say at all on what goes on in Palestine.
      You are making a slippery slope argument.

      What I said was the religion shouldn’t be allowed “special” pleading. Not that they can’t have rights.

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        What I said was the religion shouldn’t be allowed “special” pleading. Not that they can’t have rights.

        So perhaps I misunderstood when you said they don’t have a right to exist (e.g. can be banned)?

        But somehow it’s not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.

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          If a extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?
          I absolutely stand by my claim that religion should not have special pleading.
          Obviously Islam in Palestine is not against the values of Palestine. Palestine is not for Israel to decide over and control.
          If in society it is illegal to discriminate against women, religion should not be a free card to discriminate against women.
          The religion needs to change to respect humanitarian values, society should not respect religious practices that don’t.

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            If a extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?

            Gotcha - free speech is at the pleasure of the state then?

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              22 hours ago

              Gotcha

              🤣 🤣 🤣

              And not even being able to answer the question. 🤣 🤣 🤣
              Free speech is not absolute, and I live in probably the only country in the world that actually tried that!
              Free speech ends for instance when it encourages crimes or oppress minorities, or is spreading harmful lies Religions often do all 3.

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                19 hours ago

                Free speech is not absolute, and I live in probably the only country in the world that actually tried that!

                So it’s at the pleasure of the state then?

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                  19 hours ago

                  I already answered your question, free speech is regulated everywhere, it’s a moronic question, but I refuse to accept your rhetoric, as it has nothing to do with pleasure, that’s a loaded question.

                  I answered your question, but you never answered mine!
                  Again: If an extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?

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                    16 hours ago

                    I already answered your question, free speech is regulated everywhere, it’s a moronic question, but I refuse to accept your rhetoric, as it has nothing to do with pleasure, that’s a loaded question.

                    I mean - you have completely agreed with me. You just like to phrase it in a way that is more weasel-wordy.

                    Again: If an extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?

                    Let me piss you off by answering your question with yet another question - who is determining what is a “religion that is against what we stand for as a society”. And let me remind you who the current US president is.