• febra@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hey look that’s what we’ve been saying all along. Israel just looking to annex more land.

    • mwguy@infosec.pub
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      1 year ago

      More like setting up checkpoints between cities. Actively hunting for terrorists and launch sites and the return of settlers and settlements to Gaza. Hamas did it!

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            1 year ago

            yeah, but different words have different implications and connotations. We say settlers, and that word doesn’t hit as hard as colonizers or oppressors, even though they all pretty much mean the same thing.

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              In fairness colonizers just sounds silly. Just like most words with a “z” in it.

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        You have no right to land other people already live on, unless you buy it from them. Settlers have no rights. We’ve mixed past this since colonization.

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              No. I’m saying that when a conflict starts there is no “right” anymore in the colloquial sense. And while I can easily blame am aggressors in a conflict for removing the comfort of peace, it’s much harder to justify blaming the entity attacked for its response.

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          A huge amount of Israel’s land was legally purchased during the late Ottoman era and the later British Mandate. We have plenty of records.

          • problematicPanther@lemmy.world
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            So was the land that the US “bought” off of the indigenous tribes. Doesn’t make it right. Certainly doesn’t justify an ethnic cleansing.

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              Eh, some of it. I won’t pretend to be an expert, but I’m pretty sure most American land was acquired by settlers simply marching in with guns and saying “We’re here now”. That’s to say nothing of the countless treaties that were signed and broken.

              I don’t exactly think the Osage were contacted about the Louisiana Purchase.

        • mwguy@infosec.pub
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          No it likely won’t go well. But it doesn’t really need to go well. It just needs to go better.

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              Well since 2004/2005 there have been zero Palestinian homes or land stolen by Israeli’s in Gaza. And as a result 100k+ rockets, the world’s largest suicide bombing campaign and endless militant attacks have come out of the territory. So from am Israeli perspective, if those things stop; even if it means that a few Palestinians get kicked out of their homes, it’s a win.