• for_some_delta@beehaw.org
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    5 days ago

    We are both opposed to fascism. I would say you have a pacifist position. I’m not a pacifist and am unfamiliar with non-violent solutions to tankies or fascists. Are there examples of removing tankies or fascists without violence?

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      The only violence when the USSR dissolved was by liberals shooting the congress building with a tank, and if you consider the conditions associated with a greater drop in life expectancy than any non-war or genocide in the 20th century to be a form of violence. The only violence when Allande was overthrown was by liberals, and same with Jakarta.

      Turns out if you don’t use violence to defend the revolution, really bad things happen, from the immiseration of the entire population to murdering anyone left of mussulini. If you do, then liberals on the internet call you authoritarian.

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      If you vote out a fascist from an office, is that not removal. If you’re talking about removing ideology, violence won’t help at all.

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        Voting doesn’t remove fascists from power when the only winners allowed are fascists since people refuse to actually support the non-fascist options cause “they’re not viable”.

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          It most certainly would if the spirit to resist and protect our rights and freedoms overcome the oppression. Don’t give up. Neoliberalism needs to be fought tooth and nail but a Democrat won’t advocate for your death for your dissent.

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            Except they do. Dems have been telling leftists to get fucked for decades and some decide to bow to them in hopes they can maybe one day have an imaginary crumb. Those people are the ones keeping things from getting better when everyone needs to unite and literally fight against capitalist parties and their supporters instead of figuratively and performatively fighting them.

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              If you want to go to war with this fascist government with half the population supporting it. Go right ahead. It’s not going to end well. Trump is doing a great job at destroying the country and it’s going to come to a point where everyone is on the same page. That’s when action makes sense. In the meantime I’m going to my best to put the spanner in the works.

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                The country being destroyed started LONG before Trump. He’s just a convenient scapegoat for do-nothing libs to point at this time like Manchin and Sinema were last time.

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                    Not minimizing, just saying he’s not unique in regards to damaging this country. He’s just as evil as every other pro-capatilist politician from either party. This country is getting fucked by him just like it was getting fucked by Biden, Obama, and Bush.

                    Call me whatever labels will help you sleep tonight though.