This way, when the pendulum swings in the other direction and they try to take advantage of us again by showing their support, we can point to the record and show people that it’s not sincere.
We shouldn’t allow them to play both sides of the fence like this.
I don’t think it’s particularly helpful. It doesn’t matter which companies do or don’t. NONE of them are our friends. Ever.
I don’t mean to be contrarian, but I do want to point to lots of queer-owned businesses that truly mean it when they celebrate the community!
They’re still businesses and after they go public or are sold they will follow business rules.
The be all, end all of businesses isn’t always to go public. Neither does the ownership structure of all businesses facilitate it, some are co-operatives. It would also be really hard for a business that exclusively deals in products for queer people, like a binder company, to just drop their only market.
Even when that’s true, it still means they are genuinely supporting the gay community right now. An ally behaving imperfectly doesn’t make them an enemy.
Yes 100%
Queer owned businesses aren’t ones that 99.9% of people interact with on a daily basis. I doubt there are 5 queer owned businesses that are publicly traded.
It wouldn’t be queer owned if it was publicly traded. It would be owned by shareholders.
That’s a load of shit. Being queer owned doesn’t preclude you from capitalism.
I’m sorry, but what exactly is a load of shit about the above statement? Capitalism =/= publicly traded. For a business to be both publicly traded, and queer owned, there would have to be some sort of covenant preventing shares from being sold to non-queer people. I don’t think that would actually be legal?
Capitalism and publicly traded are like 3 sides of the same coin.
Uhm, what? Like, come on, I hate capitalism as much as the next queer person, but you’re just spouting nonsense. Twitter isn’t publicly-traded, does that mean it doesn’t participate in capitalism?
I truly dont understand this comment.
Bad management is still a thing. And I’m not against using the levers of capitalism to force businesses to be queer-accepting and prove that queer-phobic managers are incompetent from their numbers.
This isn’t a replacement for taking down capitalism, but still a tiny victory.
Is it Actually a victory?
Homophobe is out of a job
If you want to not forget as a personal principle, it’d be easier for you to note the ones who aren’t rolling back their support. It’ll be a smaller list.
But doing this to show people that it’s not sincere is probably unnecessary at this point. Pinkwashing has been going on for over a decade by now at minimum. If you’re dealing with “convince people corporations shouldn’t be taken at their word regarding queer rights” as a goal and existing history/arguments don’t suffice, you’re probably dealing with someone who’s either one of the lucky 10,000 or someone who isn’t willing to be convinced at all.
It was all of them.
Not true! Some never had any.
The weirdest thing I saw last year was a Tesla from an official dealer with a Pride flag wrap, as though their CEO wasn’t actively engaged in a transphobic political campaign. They really DGAF where the money comes from as long as it keeps flowing.
It’s never been sincere. Corporations aren’t your friend.
