• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social
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    20 hours ago

    If these people spent a week living in Amsterdam and experienced the absolute bliss that is good public infrastructure they’d be ashamed

    • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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      13 hours ago

      They will go to Amsterdam and drive for a week, go back to US, and praise their driving infrastructure while blaming cyclist for making them drive slow.

      I genuinely understand why Jason from NJB said that controversial statement, carbrain is an indoctrination that cannot be cured by being nice, you have to really force a good infrastructure on them and make them taste it, like the bird eating cracker meme.

      Though i would argue a lot of bikelane is hastily made without any proper planning, making the result worst for both group.

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        Don’t send them to NL, send them to Vietnam where driving a car as bikes weave around all sides of you is hellishly stressful, but bikes supply the experience cars promised but failed ti deliver, of being able to go wherever you like at a whim and free to park mere feet from mist businesses.

        It will also teach them to loath cars, since 1 can fuck up traffic for hundreds if bikes.

      • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social
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        9 hours ago

        I know you’re making a joke but actually all the protected bike lanes makes it really easy and nice for mobility scooters to get around here

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          My wife uses a power chair (cerebral palsy) and we love going to Amsterdam as it’s so easy to ride around.

          Paris is also very good for disabled visitors but for a different reason: a great bus network that supports chairs (but the metro is gated by stairs)

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            6 hours ago

            The Seoul metro has level boarding and like a 2 inch gap, I’ve seen old folks drive their scooters right on.

            The buses aren’t though.

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            9 hours ago

            Lived in Paris for 40 years: buses, sure, but sidewalks? buildings? Always thought it must be hell for chair users.

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              Absolutely yes, if it wasn’t for the buses we would never go again.

              The first time we went, we had a normal push wheel chair. The walk from our hotel to the Louvre was about 25 minutes. But Paris is so damn hilly. I was dieing from pushing my wife around. We would turn a corner to find the path ends with a set of stairs so I groan and we turn around to find another route.

              Then we saw a bus turn up, lower itself down to meet the curb and a solo wheel chair user ride on. This changed everything and allowed us to enjoy the rest of the trip without killing me.

    • Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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      11 hours ago

      I found Amsterdam terrible. People on bikes shouting at pedestrians. Not because of tge infrastructure but my goodness, that place is overcrowded.

      • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social
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        9 hours ago

        You’re probably talking about central Amsterdam by the train station.

        Yea that place is an absolute mess because ~20 million tourists come through there each year.

        If you cycle 10min in any direction away from there it’s really nice and relaxed.

        Just need to get away from the tourists

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    19 hours ago

    Did not some SF guy lose re election due to these twats…

    Nobody ever has any money until they want to be twat, then all of sudden money appears.

    Who is funding this for real tho?