A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Because caring for the environment and creating social programs is scary to them.
The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.
Breathable air? That’s just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.
If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.
also we dont have the AI data centers polluting our states, like many red states have right now.
It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.
They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they’ll love it.
There’s a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they’re flyover states, they know they’re never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn’t take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There’s some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn’t even manage that…
I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head
i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest
Having gotten roped back into the southeast for a bit, FUCK YOU, COMMIE!
The midwest reclaimed me from the PNW but after getting the family to visit they’re all on board for moving there. If it’s still allowed when we’re ready.
You’re thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They’ve never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can’t conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.
they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.
They weren’t going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there’s nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn’t coming back and there’s not much else for money in west Virginia.
Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there’s a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)
its most like the vicinity of Ports which have the greatest economic value, you arnt getting that a middle of nowhere state. plus other things like arable land for farming, the climate, the jobs.
I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it’s not what makes the state so attractive to live in.
People don’t like a cloistered lifestyle unless they’ve lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to ‘flyover states’ have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.
It’s extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn’t have the opportunities we did.
The entire answer is “propaganda”
fox is mostly to blame, followed by the grifters.
They hate us because they ain’t us.
“They hate us 'cause they anus.”
heinous
Lol we fund them.
Everybody loves finding things in common with other people.
Since California is percieved by the right to be a “liberal stronghold”, it is easy for them to bond over a shared hatred of it. Regardless of whether or not that hate is based in fact.
both cali and NY. they probably dont know that are many blue states than just new york and california.
California is successful. It is the strongest economy of the US, and one of the strongest economies in comparison to other, complete, countries. And it dares not to be Republican!
On the other hand, most Republican states could not survive without federal handouts, mostly supplied by more successful Democratic states.
It is envy, plain and simple.
Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of “liberals”, etc. etc.
And yet, it’s the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.
They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.
nevada, texas which has no income taxes have so many problems because of it, republicans suckered in by this "FREE money state’ its only worth it if you are very wealthy yourself.
Nevada and texas are both shitholes. They exist to exploit workers who don’t know any better and have bought into a lie sold to them by rich people.
pretty much it,
4th largest*
Because the entire concept of conservatism is based on having enemies.
They jelly of that economy
“B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!”
To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It’s a myth.
Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.
Yeah, as a Californian the “mass exodus” propaganda was hilarious.
In integral part of conservative ideology is hatred and California’s been a target for decades. When the acceptance of gays became too widespread they switched to hatred and vilification of transgender Americans. When the general population gets tired of listening to them screech about that they’ll find someone/something else. For some reason they don’t get tired of whining about CA.
and many of them hypocrites, some of them do business in california because thats where the market is.
If California is allowed to look good, then it hurts the credibility of their ideology.
I think there are some criticisms about Californians leaving the state raising housing prices in their own state. That’s just how supply and demand works though when the supply of houses suddenly becomes more limited in your area.
They like to say things along the lines of: “Californians messed up their own state with their high taxes, fled here, are driving all the prices up, and are now trying to bring their fAiLeD PoLiTiCs to the state.” The real answer is that California is such a desirable place to live that there are not enough houses and well paying jobs to go around. People leave the state because of unregulated capitalist pressures, not because of the state’s strong social programs.
It’s not just Californians moving to other states that are driving prices up. Housing prices going up is also caused by private equity firms buying up available properties, a slowdown on building new houses capping supply, people from other states moving, and Not In My Backyard people trying to prevent lower cost housing in their towns since they don’t want the price of their house to ever drop.
Having strong social programs in their own states could actually help mitigate the impact of prices going up for housing as well as for other goods and services. For instance, they could have their own state provided healthcare coverage to help them have guaranteed healthcare. They could have better public transportation systems so they are not so car reliant to get to work. Rent controls in place to mitigate landlords pricing people out of the area. Affordable housing construction. Even things like public utilities could be offered for less by the state for gas, electricity, phone, and internet.
What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣
*Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans
CA republicans hate California just as much
Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.
the LA are has alot of those, youtubers i used to followed moved during pandemic to VEGAS, and thier business is based in LA for reason obviously, who wants to do business in vegas. at the sametime railing on cali, they complain about nevadas lack of services.
As a Californian I’ve spent decades watching CA Republicans whine about California then…stay.
I just laugh in their faces now. You’re here because it’s California and you know it’s good. I’m not going to entertain their empty whining. I’ll just laugh at them while they enjoy the weather and all the other cool shit they complain about.
Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.
its also because many moved to those 2 states recently
From what I can tell from up in Canada, it’s a more ‘liberal’ leaning state according to their metric and they don’t like that.
Bingo.
they think its a hellhole, because of all the homeless and junkies, but they arnt telling the whole truth when red states are the ones putting them on buses to MA, NYC, WASHINGTON, california, also whining about the income taxes, property taxes.
California is strictly better than every red state in almost every measure. They literally hate it because it directly disproves their worldview that conservatives are good for the economy.
