ai still has trouble with hands.
What’s wrong with the hands?
I’m not eating any food that advertises what it will do to your asshole. We’re adults here, you can just say it’s hot. You don’t have to say “We are very proud of the way our product will absolutely Sept 11th the hole you shit from.” It’s not necessary to bring my asshole into this.
Ok but what about a soothing breeze anus chocolate bar?
Citrus kiss
Do I eat it or just shove it right up there?
well 9/11 was an inside job
Caused by gut flora
Might be more of a Deepwater Horizon situation?
Wait, do mice like chocolate? Can they eat chocolate? Or is this one of those the-dog-will-shit-itself-to-death things?
It’s the dog thing. Chocolate can be toxic for them.
Gonna be a fuckin painful exit for this mouse it seems.
:(
I never understood sweets with spiciness added. It just ruins the whole experience for me. Spicy on savoury foods is fine but not on primarily sweet ones.
A lot of Asian foods are spicy/sweet; it is great.
Yeah but are they spicy sweets/desserts?
No, plenty of main dishes are spicy/sweet.
There also desserts and sweets that are spicy/sweet. There are some snacks that are essentially sweetened spicy fish…
I know main dishes are spicy sweet. I just said I dont like sweet desserts and candy and similar.
You didn’t clearly define desserts/candy in your first comment.
While I understood what you meant, it wasn’t that clear in a broader perspective. English eh? So easy to misunderstand each other
Yeah the main comment is not as clear but the first reply to absGeekNZ is clear enough I think.
They also addressed that comment and answered it directly in response to desserts. Which you did not engage with.
I dunno. I like my chili flavoured candy.
Beside, wasn’t chocolate traditionally eaten with chili by the natives? Or was it a spicy coco drink…?
Chocolate isn’t sweet, it’s bitter. You have to add a lot of sugar to get the sweet chocolate we’re familiar with. The Mayan and Aztec versions of hot chocolate were more like a spicy coffee than the sweet drink we have now.
There’s a coffee roaster near me, Republica Coffee Roasters, that has an Aztec hot chocolate/mocha on the menu. And is a spicy version of those. It’s not my favourite coffee place, but I really like the spicyness if those drinks… Damn think I might go get one now that I’m thinking about it and it’s raining today
I’ll occasionally make up coffee in the morning with chocolate, cinnamon, and a few shakes of cayenne pepper. Coffee shop I went to once did the same thing, called it an Aztec Mocha. Very good.
Lol I didn’t even see your comment before I replied
I have no idea what coffee shop it was, just some random place my wife and I stopped at while traveling. But yeah, the mocha with cinnamon and cayenne is great, especially on cool and rainy days. The heat from the spice adds to the warmth of the drink.
Chili flavored? ewww. Cinnamon flavored? Oh yeah! Turn that spicy up!
Chamoy on fruit or candy is awesome.
It’s amazing how all humans are different.
Honestly, thst is very subjective. I love tamarind and pepper candy, vanilla ice cream with spicy chips, and honey plus roasted chillies marinade for pork.
And I say this as someone who is not into spicy food, there are a few combinations out there, where the sweet and spicy mix actually work great for a snack.
Good for you.
I do like spicy food in fact but spicy sweets were always offputing to me.
So weird, Right? I get the same with Ketchup, for some reason, it just tastes off-putting and disgusting to me, like vinegar and sugar, with a bit weird chemical aftertaste and maybe a hit of tomato, lol.
I see people coating their hot dogs and fries with that and just think “Ew, but to each, their own”
Ayoo ketchup haters unite.
I also just cannot stand ketchup
Agree with slight exception: Pineapple, Jalapeno, Pepperoni on pizza. Just the right amount of sweet, spicy, and salty on the savory base. Shit slaps.
That could work. But it is as I said not primarily meant tobe sweet.
Add goat cheese to that and it’s the best pizza
I’ve tried a few mild chilli chocolates and they’ve been pretty good. Not too sweet though, actual chocolates.
Sweetness increases your tolerance for heat. The Scoville unit basically tells you how much sugar water it takes to mask the spiciness.
This variety is for the challenge of it, not the enjoyment of eating it.
Well this one is but many are not.
Much as I love spicy foods/hot sauce, this weapons grade shit is just silly.
I once signed a waiver to purchase a spicy chicken sandwich and will never do so again.
I find it hard to understand how a potentially hazardous to health food item is even allowed.
What is this obcession with ever increasing level of spice in food, lately?
Because at some point all the flavour just goes away, replaced by a hefty dose of pain.
It can be fun to safely experience sensory extremes. Many people get an endorphin/dopamine rush from it.
Other than some gut irritation it’s not a significant hazard. Like yeah keep it safely stored from sensitive people and pets also it’s probably not the best road trip snack or whatever. Certainly less dangerous than alcohol, fireworks, cigarettes or texting while driving.
I can get sensory extremes by walking outside, right now. I’m good on that front.
It’s clear I’m on the minority side here, no problem on that, but is it that weird to expect food to have flavour and not hurt me while I’m eating it? It seems reasonable.
I think the problem lies with calling things like the 1 chip challenge or “melt you wussy butthole” varieties of spicy challenges “food”.
I mean I guess you ingest them, but that’s kinda like calling magic mushrooms food or ipecac syrup food. They are things that you eat for a specific purpose that is not nourishment.
It’s totally normal to like or not like spicy and i doubt anyone would judge you for that. I think your comment’s wording is a bit reactive though.
Spice will give you an approximation of a “runner’s high” without the tedious mucking about of exercise. There is, of course, an upper limit which too many products tip past.
There are too many bad taste jokes to be made on that.
Make the joke a bit spicier and the taste should disappear.
That is the problem.
Because it’s fun. Live a little.
I do, thank you the concern. But self imposed torture is not something I enjoy. Nor recommend.
Don’t kink shame, ffs.
I realize I’m a special case, but my nose is essentially non-functional—I don’t smell food. While my sense of taste is more sensitive than your average person, I suspect I still miss out on some kinds of flavour. I believe my impairment is why I am drawn towards strong tastes like cheeses or, indeed, extremely spicy food. They’re the “only” flavours that I really experience strongly.
Ha! Never thought of that!
I’m very sensitive with smells, while my wife isn’t.
Although I do like spicy food, I still want to be able to taste anything else than hot pain.My wife though enjoys chilli chips, where I couldn’t even stomach one of them.
Cases like yours are unfortunate and I understand and respect those. I’m a fan of spice myself. Just not to the point it hurts me. I put spice in food to enhance flavours, not to cover it with a dose of pain.
If you can find it, try portuguese goat cheese or Azores cheese, long cure. Very flavourful but incredibly intense.
self inflicted pain with no scars or prema damage, as long as it’s below pepper spray.
Your point being?
Drag wants it to hurt
Hey, long time no see!
But no. It’s food. Not torture.
speak for yourself, some of us are doing self harm.
Por que no los dos?
No. Plain and simple.
in the past i thought eating spicy food made me look cool and manly, but then i realised i’m missing out on the flavour of foods and understood i was being silly. so now i mostly stick to mild foods, with the occasional spicy food for varity’s sake but only if i can actually taste the flavour of said food through the spice
but that’s just me
I had the same sandwich (Dave’s Hot Chicken reaper sandwich). I assumed it was just a marketing stunt. After one bite I had to go back and get a milkshake so I could sip it between bites to finish the damn sandwich.
Oh was it made with Dave’s Hot Sauce? I had a customer bring in his own Ultimate Insanity hot sauce to use in a Prairie Fire shot (tequila+hot sauce). Shit looked ROUGH. He let me keep the hot sauce after though and it became one of my partner’s favourites.
alcohol an capsaicin hits hard. the alcohol acts as a surfactant and your throat just gets obliterated. even vodka+tabasco can be pretty rough.
Yeah it’s totally a mistake.
I bought some stupid hot sauces out of curiosity a few years ago (last dab kind of sauces, they are fairly hot but still edible) but was not prepared for the heat. I tried some milk and bread and whatever and it didn’t help clear my mouth. It was on my tongue and my lips and I wanted it OFF.
So having watched some of the “plutonium” hot sauce videos I put my obviously very big brain to work. In some of those videos, capsaicin crystals are dissolved in alcohol. I thought to myself, “alcohol dissolves capsaicin, my mouth is hot from capsaicin, I have an idea”. It was not a good idea.
I swished and swallowed a shot of vodka.
As you say, it really helped the spicy coat my ENTIRE mouth and top of my throat. If you have never had spicy pain in between your teeth and coating your entire gumline, it is really something else. 2/10 would not recommend.
In any event, a lesson was learned that day that I doubt I will forget.
I took a shot of everclear one time and felt my throat close up immediately. I couldn’t breath and felt panic for what felt like 2 minutes but was actually just 10 seconds. I imagine adding hot sauce would have ended me.
My mouth is broken and I love really spicy stuff. Like, still haven’t met someone in person who likes things as spicy as I like them.
FYI to the Flaming Anus chocolate bar: it’s advertising hype BS. Like most hot sauces yelling out some high scoville number. All that big “2.2 million scoville” on the packaging here is actually just referencing that it has Carolina reaper pepper in the chocolate, and that those peppers can be up to 2.2 million scoville.
But the peppers are dead last on the ingredient list. Each bar has very little in it. If I ate a Carolina reaper pepper rated over 2 million even I would hate it and it would burn and I’d feel like my insides wanted to die. But the chocolate bar here is just a spicy little snack.
A guy after my own heart. Do you like vinegar based hot sauces? If not, which sauces do you go for? I’ve struggled for years to find decent sauces and have only found Melinda’s and my own sauces to tolerate.
Not the guy you responded to, but I also love hot sauce. I usually stock franks, yellowbird’s red jalapeño sauce (forget the name), and cholula or Valentina if I don’t feel like paying for it. I also had this really awesome green hot sauce from El Pato brand, but I haven’t ever seen it again. Hopefully someday!
Dude, this el pato sauce’s packaging looks like absolute dog water. Which, for anyone who has ever gone on a sauce tasting spree, means it’s either horrific or ambrosia. There is no in-between. You’ve piqued my interest more than I can properly describe.
Their canned red sauce is always a gamble between mild to decently hot. Would recommend.
The tomato sauce or tomato sauce with jalapeño? Or another one I’m not seeing?
I never thought I’d see El Pato ever referenced online. It’s my go-to. Dirt cheap and I can eat it by the can on tacos or burritos. Mix it with cheese for a really good dip for chips.
Very explicit. Thank you!
Ah, a fellow Melinda’s enjoyer! I love they’re Ghost Pepper sauce in particular (though it’s fairly mild for a Ghost Pepper sauce). My only complaint with Melinda’s, is that they consistently use too much carrot in their sauces. But otherwise they’re really great!
I’m really not picky about the sweetness. As long as it’s got a little kick and doesn’t taste like a shot of vinegar, I’m happy. I usually go for the habanero, but it’s getting to be a bit pepperminty, so I might jump ship for one of the other brands mentioned here.
Vinegar tends to be too forward. I go for the stuff you’ll find in a Mexican market or “ethnic” aisle of a grocery store. Peppers being an ingredient higher than most others beyond water catch my eye. Melinda’s is alright, though I’ve seen them branch out quite a bit from their more humble beginnings.
I have an international market right by my place, so it never struck me to go to a Mexican shop. Hope they have some good stuff!
I don’t like vinegary too much (or smoke/fermented flavor etc), I like El Yucateco Red*.
Though it is a bit expensive for a tiny bottle. So I made a few big bottles trying my own spin* from garden habaneros (orange) and liked how it turned out.
* I see the key ingredients: distilled white vinegar, citric acid, xantham gum and tomato paste EDIT: carrots is another trick, IIRC I fried mine with onions and bell peppers
You people and your terrible looking bottles are going to send me into debt. How’re all of you finding these things?
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Reminds me of the time I lost an entire day to the fucking One Chip Challenge.
I’m the “spicy guy” of my circle of people I know, so I always get brought in the challenge things and hottest x to try. Had the gummies and jerky, and beer, and all sorts of things. The chip has been the only one that I’d actually say was hot. Mouth was fine, but it made my stomach hurt for like 10 minutes.
Lucky you. My experience was the first 20 minutes were bad, but tolerable, then my stomach hurt like a mother fucker for an hour, then I projectile vomited and sat in the shower for like an hour+. Went to bed after that. It was like 5PM.
Yeah. I do very hot sauces on about everything I eat. Love the stuff and I think I don’t react to capsaicin like most people. I ate that chip on a completely empty stomach in the morning and that’s what caused my stomach to hurt, I think. I just popped it in my mouth expecting it to be not really any hotter than all the other spicy challenge stuff. I was surprised they made a “challenge” chip actually that hot.
There are worse experiences.
One Chip challenge was no big deal to me. 9M Scoville Lil Nitro Gummy was much hotter but I did it without regret. 16M Scoville CaJohns Trouble Bubble bubble gum felt like it was roughly the same heat as the gummy. I completed the challenge blowing a bubble, but soon after started puking lava. There was regret. 😄
Trouble bubble is another one of those BS lies. Pure capsaicin is 16 million scoville. The gum uses a tiny amount of it in the gum. It’s the smallest added ingredient in the gum. Diluted from the gum it’s nowhere near 16 million scoville anymore. They still left it extremely hot, but nowhere near 16 million. I’m surprised it made you vomit since you don’t swallow much of the heat juice. Make your lips hurt though from blowing that bubble.
I’m not sure how the Scoville system measures it exactly since of course no pepper or anything else is going to be pure capsaicin. Is it based on the number of milligrams of capsaicin within a serving or what? Certainly a tiny sliver of Carolina Reaper is different than eating the whole thing but it’s considered a 2.2M pepper regardless.
In any event I’ve eaten straight reapers and done the 2022 One Chip challenge - the blue tongue one - without issue. The Lil Nitro gummy is way, way hotter than a reaper or the One Chip challenge, and the Trouble Bubble seemed about the same as the Lil Nitro gummy and its the only thing I’ve ever eaten that got a reaction out of me so I wouldn’t call it BS. Can your taste buds really distinguish between an unnatural 9M or 16M scoville anyway? The gum is devious in that you have to chew it a long time to get the sugar out of it and make it pliable enough to blow a bubble. You make and swallow a lot of saliva filled with lava during that time. I’m sure that’s what made me puke. Whatever it’s rating should be - if the 16M is inaccurate - there’s nothing mild about it. I can guarantee you eat it and you won’t call it BS. 😄
Scoville is measured by blending or breaking down what the capsaicin is in and analyzing what percentage of that is made of capsaicin. Pure capsaicin is 16,000,000 scoville. Half capsaicin is 8,000,000 scoville, and so on. Since the gum has like 8 ingredients in it and the ingredients are legally required to be listed in order of amount the food contains, and the pepper extract is listed as the 8th ingredient, the absolute highest scoville the gum could have is 2,000,000 and that’s only if all 8 ingredients were in equal amounts, which is pretty much a zero chance. In all likelihood the gum is between 300,000 and 800,000 if I were to make agood guess of it.
They must be kind of inconsistent with the chips and the nitro gummy bear, because when I did the nitro gummy it was a lot less hot than when I did the chip.
Your explanation doesn’t seem to match Wikipedia or what Google’s AI summary says on how Scoville’s are calculated. It’s essentially a parts per million capsaicin x a scale.
In any event I can say the 2022 One Chip challenge and eating a dried Carolina Reaper seems about the same to me. Only did the chip once but I’ve done reapers a couple times and they’re certainly hot, but I’ve never struggled with anything hot. Doesn’t bother me in the restroom either like so many others… not sure why. The one time I did the gummy… way hotter than a pepper or the One Chip. Not even close. Wouldn’t recommend to anyone that found the chip or a straight pepper an issue. And the gum? Like I said it’s devious in how much capsaicin you’re forced to swallow while trying to get to the place to blow a bubble. About 5 minutes after completing the challenge my stomach started to feel like there was a balloon inside it. Told my wife I’m either gonna have a monster burp or I’m gonna puke and then the evacuation started. I’d do it again probably if I had someone doing it with me just to be entertained by their reaction, and to see if my stomach would respond the same way again. Wouldn’t recommend to anyone that hasnt challenged themselves at extreme levels already though. The one I ate was no joke.
That’s how California fires get started.
… that might actually be a … rather inhumane, but ‘effective’ form of pest control for mice.
I… did not know that anyone made fucking ghost pepper grade chocolate, but yeah, that would lure in and then potentiall kill, if not seriously injure or at least dissuade mice.
Its like sugar + borax for ants and such, sheesh.
No one does. It isn’t a 2.2 million shu chocolate bar. It just has a very small amount of Carolina reaper pepper as an ingredient in the bar. Most of those hot sauces with goofy names are the same way. “Satan’s lBunghole made with 6,000,000 pepper extract” Yeah. Made with like a drop of extract so the sauce is more like 200,000 scoville.
Ok, that makes much more sense.
I can handle a decent bit of spice, been to a good number of hole in the wall, pretty authentic restaurants of many different kinds of cuisine from many places… but I can’t handle an insane amount of it, I don’t know the actual scolville (sp?, shus apparently?) ratings …
But yeah, that makes much more sense that its mostly marketing bs.
Yep. Tons of people want to say they like real hot stuff because it sounds cool, so most hot sauces cater to those people, but they don’t actually want those people to only buy it once. They want repeat customers so they make it mild enough for a lot of people to tolerate.
If you really like hot sauce (like in the top 5% of people), “Dave’s Insanity Sauce” is a great tasting and affordable sauce I like to splash and put on all sorts of stuff from eggs to sandwiches to pizza. I’ve even found it at a couple grocery stores. Like $7 a bottle.
If you want truly hot. The kind of stuff that draws out intense pain from most that try it, Da Bomb hot sauces have been made by a company out of Kansas City Kansas called Spicin Foods. You may have heard of Da Bomb beyond insanity from the show Hot Ones. It’s actually the hottest sauce they have on that show (and the guests usually show it) even though it’s not the last one in the lineup. Spicin Foods is one of the few companies that I actually believe to have accurate scoville ratings. The hot ones Da Bomb beyond insanity is one of the da bomb’s least hot sauces at 136,000 scoville, and like I said, it’s actually the hottest sauce on that show.
There’s another Da Bomb called Ground Zero that’s around 325,000 scoville. That’s to the point where I don’t want to use much at all and it’s quite hot to me. Many other sauces I’ve tried over the decades have claimed to be much higher scoville and they usually aren’t as hot as Ground Zero.
And then they have “da bomb The Final Answer” 1,500,000 scoville. Fuck this shit. This can leave a chemical burn on your skin. I have never in my life met anyone in person who does spicy like I do and a large drop of this stuff made me hallucinate colors and sweat outside in freezing weather. By the time my head quit burning my stomach hurt so bad it made me vomit. Which made my mouth start burning again. It’s the shit I’ll only put like a drop of in a bowl of chili.
Love Dave’s Insanity. But Dave’s Ultimate Insanity is my favorite to date. Da Bomb Beyond Insanity was never meant to be used the way Hot Ones does. There was a behind the scenes at their factory and the owner said it’s intention was for adding to chili or soups, one drop at a time.
For sure on Da Bomb. I’m from Kansas City near where it’s made and have been using it since 1999. It tastes bad on its own but works great to make other things hot. I keep it around (ground zero) to ad to other hot sauce and salsa and ketchup bottles and Sriracha and BBQ sauce I buy and to ad to soups and chili to make them spicy. It’s great for adding heat to stuff that tastes good. Dave’s is just tasty and goes right on sandwiches and stuff.
Yes, indeed. I find it too metallic tasting. No idea what it could be. I’ve bought it twice now, but I think I’m just going to stick with Dave’s Ultimate Insanity and Mad Dog 357 (oh you simply must try them).
I’ve had mad dog 357, the 357 silver edition, and the 357 gold. Gold is supposed to be hotter than the silver edition, but the bottle I had of gold was a touch less spicy than silver. None of the three actually tasted hotter than the 321k da bomb, but they were sure better tasting.
I am not a capcacin masochist, I will not be persuing this, but I do very much appreciate the knowledge dump, I enjoy learning about what the real shit actually is so I can laugh at fools, ahhaha!
(Ok, and possibly maybe try your first suggestion, I lied, I am slightly a masochist / innately curious =P)
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I still remeber when someone I was with at a restaurant asked me to pass ‘the hot sauce’, I passed them like, you know, actually kinda hot, basic tabasco red sauce, and they got angry at me.
They apparently classified Sriracha as ‘hot sauce’ in their brain, and … thats what they meant by ‘hot sauce’.
Oh honey, oh dear, almost all Sriracha at a restuarant is basically a slightly more interesting and flavorful ketchup, it is not hot sauce.
Like, you, Mr./Ms./Mz. ColeSloth, you seem to be in the spice-pain tolerance range of like, an order(s?) of magnitude beyond me, but I hope you can see just the… sad confusion and hilarity of someone genuinely thinking Sriracha is ‘hot sauce’.
Oh I do indeed. I have to be careful cooking up at the fire station. I made chili once a long time ago that was just a touch spicy to me and a couple of the guys couldn’t eat it :-\
Firefighter who loves burning their face off with spicy food, ahahah, I love it!
You sound like you’d be fun to share a brew with, though I can only imagine your schedule is also insane, hahah!
No clue if your user instance indicates where you’re from, but you just saying that reminds me of passing a boot around at a schnitzel house (haus?) back in the day =P
Lol. The brews are a good time. My job hours couldn’t be better. I work 48 hours on and 96 hours off. Gives me a lot of time to play… and work a 2nd job. I think we might be a ways off from each other. U.S in Missouri.
dissuade
“fuck this shit I am moving from this house”
Mouse Yelp Review:
Walls: 4/5
- roomy, yet also cozy!
Climate Control: 3/5
- gotta stick near the right pipes in peak summer/winter
Catering: 0/5
- actual sadistic death trap food, the ‘complimentary’ continental breakfast looks great, but will disembowel you. RIP lil squeeky jr.
Overall: 2/5
iirc mice don’t have the same response to capsaicin as humans - they can taste it, and don’t particularly like the taste, but it doesn’t cause them pain like it does in humans.
I’m sure birds are immune as well as Steve-O, can’t say for sure of rodents.
From a tiny amount of reading (and a complete lack of a biology degree…) it’s that the rodent taste buds just react differently to the capsaicin, so it doesn’t hit the sodium channels in the pain receptor ‘stack’ in the same way as it does in humans. It’s not the total lack of reaction like you get with birds or some ungulates.
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I think.As a self proclaimed “marine biologist,” I can neither confirm nor deny.
This is interesting. A popular squirrel deterrent for bird feeders is to put spicy stuff on the seed. I’ve been trying that lately and the squirrels have completely left my bird feeder alone. So there must be something rodents don’t like — unless squirrels are just built different?
Squirrels just need to nut up.
I thought all mammals responded to capsaicin
Seeing the videos of goats just casually chomping through the carolina reapers, I would bet there are differences in species.
Sharks aren’t bothered at all. There’s probably lots of animals that respond differently than humans. I believe birds enjoy capsaicin.
I was mostly referencing the mammals, because that was the top comment, but sure.
Just putting interesting info out there. Kinda weird to seem defensive over that?
I mean airplanes are immune to capsaicin as well. I don’t think they have the right type of pain receptors to sense it.
Not like Lemmy needs more engagement or anything but sure, no harmless tangents allowed. Got it. You guys have fun. I’m taking a break from Lemmy.
You thought right, at least based on this research:
I assume so. I have had critters gorging on my ghosts and reapers in the garden. Losing an entire plant overnight was the last straw so I have webbing up now, but they were clearly unaffected.
Lost a plant with peppers on it? I wonder what OG was eating that.
Well I didn’t lose it, it just got FUBARed by something big. Either landed on it or tried to take it away. All peppers gone too, right when they were starting to turn red :(
Lame
By this researcher they do feel the “pain” from it:
Am I just missing where they claim that? From the conclusion:
Altering the palatability of this feed to rodents through the addition of capsaicin may greatly enhance traditional methods of increasing poison bait acceptance on poultry operations
That they avoid the taste has nothing inherently to do with the ‘pain’ experienced as a result of consuming it - in the preceding section they discuss other strategies to increase bait acceptance, including adding rodenticide to preferred bait foods. That rodents have taste preferences isn’t really in question, that they have a pain response to consuming capsaicin is.
here is test that uses pain caused by capsicin to test local anesthesia:
orofacial capsaicin test in rats
Does this prove that capsicium causes pain?
Edit some more research regarding the rodents:
Tree shrews can tolerate hot peppers:
Changes in TRPV1-Mediated Physiological Function in Rats Systemically Treated With Capsaicin on the NeonateThe question was never if subcutaneous injections of capsaicin produce a pain reaction, nor how the effects of neonatal exposure to capsaicin effect the development of a rats life (even if there are impacts on the sensitivity of a response in TRPV1 as a result, your second link pretty clearly establishes that that is not a strong indicator of pain response to capsaicin in rodents, though it doesn’t go on to establish specifics thereof). Neither of those have to do with the consumption of capsaicin, though the second article is pretty interesting! It doesn’t establish a relationship between baseline “rodents” and TRPV1 response though, nor does it make any claims about severity of response or exposure sensitivity (which are not the goals of the paper), but that may be because the only english copy I can find of the article is a fairly abbreviated version of the full chinese text (and I uh… do not read written chinese very well at all, let alone discussions of technical biology).
Combination of these two should show you that mice react similarly to human reactions to oral ingestion of capsicin:
Innate liking and disgust reactions elicited by intraoral capsaicin in male mice
Acute oral toxicity of capsaicin in miceOkay, I’m starting to question if you’re reading the articles you’re bringing out here?
with the proportion of each reaction among disgust reactions similar to that induced by bitter and sour stimuli
First paper states in the abstract that it isn’t measuring a pain response, the paper goes on to clarify that (and has some pretty horrifying descriptions of the surgical procedure…) and is explicit that any response is based on mouse behavior, making no attempt to compare it to human reactions (because that is a really tricky question to answer in a rigorous manner, lets be real)
The second is studying the LD-50 of capsaicin - and yeah I bet they had a pain response, since they were given so much of it some of them died of stomach ulcers. It does not at any point discuss the pain response from consuming it, beyond that they died, only the symptoms after consumption.
These are both fundamentally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
WTH is this pic?
Who holds a chocolate bar like that?
Who would have such a piece of finger nail?
Judging by his fingernails being so dirty, I’m guessing he’s a tradesperson. Tradespeople tend to damage/chip/break nails. As for the odd thumb position, I’m guessing he initially was holding it looking at the back, and turned his hand to show the front a bit for the photo, leading to the awkward thumb position.
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It really doesn’t though
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I’ll give you a pass because it’s a blurry image, but it does not say ‘nutrittion’
When the first spasms hit.
Why does that look like Mickey is busting a nut? Seeing Mickey’s O-face wasn’t on my list of things to do today.
One of those things you buy but never to actually eat. I remember my brother bought me a beer that was made using yeast originally cultured from beard hairs belonging to the master Brewmaster (I believe rouge brewery made it). Could never bring myself to drink it. Sat in my shelf for years as more of a keep sake.
Yeah… this is worse than my sister buying me candy with ants…
Where would that be a legal tender?
Lol. Took me a minute.
The anteaters in Zootopia.
The medium of exchange on an ant farm is tiny plows.
Some ants are actually pretty good. There are green tree cutter ants that are an awesome sour snack.
green apples are an “awesome sour snack”.
pickles are an “awesome sour snack”.
ants, are bugs.
There’s a reason mammals have evolved into ant eaters at least 12 different times and it’s not because ants are bad food.
High in protein, plentiful and tasty. A good bit of bush tucker.
So are shrimp and lobsters, basically. Some cultures eat dogs, others eat chickens, and some eat crickets/ants/weird-sea-crustaceans.
I’m sure that some of the foods I ate as a kid would squick out many folks, but that’s not due to anything inherent in them. There’s nothing weird about eating ‘bugs,’ it’s just a weird semi-trained quirk you have.
I watched a Youtube video by Adam Ragusea about eating insects. He theorized that the only reason why bugs aren’t delicious is because they are too small to remove out of their shell. So if you shrink a lobster abd have to eat the entire thing, it would taste like any bug.
Beard beer! Yeah, rogue was definitely playing with things at the time (remember voodoo donut?). Gotta keep in mind this brewer had been brewing in a yeast laden environment for many years.
I feel like I remember reading white labs sampled it and found it was a combo of several of their strains.
They also had that one whose yeast had been to space. Way the hell overpriced and not very good.
And then there’s the polish beer, made from yeast culture from a couple of models kootchies.
Well, I didn’t realise Amouranth was Polish. Every day is a school day.
Wow I didn’t know she was collaborating with them. Originally they had three polish models. Guess thirsty twitchees is a good focus group. If they buy bath water they’ll buy this.
That’s fucking disgusting. Are they valuable? I pull one of those of my bath drain every couple of years if he ever needs another one.
Those bars are fine to eat, though. Spicy chocolate tastes good and the 2.2 million advertising is BS. They contain a tiny amount of pepper from 2 million+ scoville Carolina reaper peppers. Diluted down as the last ingredient in the chocolate bar makes it way, way, lower.
True true. This isn’t pure form. I probably would still avoid it myself, while I do like hot things, I have the worst luck so I’d somehow get the one they “accidentally” made 2.2 million Scoville lol.
Lol. No chocolate and just straight puree scorpion pepper.
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this looks slopped / i can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few slops in my time.
I can’t believe they stole the work of the hard working Flaming Anus artists in order to AI generate a bite mark into it and claim their place in the c/lemmyshitpost hall of fame. smhing my head.
/s (maybe google for 3 seconds before trying to start an AI witchhunt.)
Text is way too legible to be AI, unless it’s heavily edited AI.
The bar is full of “nutrittton” how could it be AI? 😂
It says “nutrition”, but the quality of the photo makes the dot of the i’s blend to the body. But there are only three vertical lines (representing “iti”).
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Some products like this should be required to have dangerous chemical signs on them.
I don’t think that the mouse would have understood them.
lol
It’s advertising bs. The chocolate isn’t that hot. It isn’t 2.2 million scoville. It had a tiny amount of 2.2 million scoville pepper mixed into the chocolate. That pepper is dead last on the ingredients list. You’d have a harder time eating half a habanero.
