As a great man once said: “What? Over? Did you say ‘over’? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!..”
P.S.
We still haven’t forgotten 9/11.
Weird how 9/11 happened on the 11th of September, the date lines up so perfectly, really makes you think 🤔
The sad part about being an ironic moron in shitposter places is that you inevitably attract unironic morons who ruin the whole vibe :(
You don’t deserve to get a vibe, you’re a denialist cunt
Ah that’s why we bombed Iran, got it
The one from 1973 right?
Is that why you guys still kill arabs?
Ah yes, I see the history understander has logged on again…
Mayonese-Jar is a real one <3
If a Serbian nationalist hadn’t shot the damn archduke of Austria then Hideki Tojo wouldn’t’ve sank the majority of the US pacific fleet decades later.
If he hadn’t been hangry for a sandwich…
I first read it as “archdude” and i hereby start a petition to normalize this word
The archdude archabides
Are you sure you want to credit us with all that? First the invisible bombers…
Butterfly affect. You literally just made it rain here. Do you have no decency? How dare you!?!
Honestly, this doesn’t even make enough sense to be a shitpost
I think, in this case, that’s what makes it a shitpost.
OOP asks a valid question, though. I don’t remember what Serbia did, either.
The actual answer is ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo, the former of which was the first post-WWII genocide legally recognised by the ICJ
Moreover, as the meme indicates, their citizenry continues to feel as though the intervention was unwarranted. at least in large part. No state-level population is a monolith.
They know what they did, they just want to do it again.
Of course it was unwarranted dafuq they bombed civilians areas with depleted uranium.
I’ll be frank. Watching average people, noncombatants, children march toward pits to be executed leaves me less than sympathetic to you. I hope your world burns a millionth as much as mine did so that you can begin to comprehend how little I care about your nicked toe.
If you really were there, I’m terribly sorry. No civilians deserve any atrocities. There’s no us or them, that’s fkn stupid and you know it. I’m not even serb.
Bro, what the fuck kind of social experiment is this? Why’d you answer with such wildly different answers?! Did you just forget to switch accounts or something?
Exactly why I support americans and germans dying lmao. If only we could nuke tel aviv.
Thank you. I had forgotten about that horrible little bit of history.
It’s also a reason why there’s Bill Clinton statue in Prishtinë
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It was the death of Tito that threw Yugoslavia into chaos.
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Why did the Soviet Union break up? Why did the Soviet Union collapse? An important reason is that the struggle in the ideological field is very fierce, the comprehensive denial of the history of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the denial of Lenin, the negation of Stalin, the historical nihilism, the ideological chaos, the Party organizations at all levels have almost no effect, the army is not under the leadership of the Party. Finally, the Soviet Communist Party’s largest party was scattered, and the Soviet Union’s largest socialist country fell apart.
- Xi Jinping (translated by Firefox)
Even ignoring the claim of a coup, please explain how you think the USSR collapsing in 1991 is responsible for the ethnic tensions in Yugoslavia that bubbled up years earlier
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The USSR was just a Russian empire that pretended to be some international socialist brotherhood. Imperialism is married to the Russian identity and that didnt stop just because the Bolsheviks killed the royal family.
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Oh, right, you’re just intentionally trolling. Cool.
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ah yes, the equally competent and incompetent natoids strike again.
They are competent when it comes to bombing serbs with depleted uranium when they did genocide. The (hillarious) justification is that they disrespected UN resolution
They seems to be very incompetent to do the same to israel despite 50 years of sitting on the UN.
Funny no? Really makes you think
I was making the remark that Fascists by design, have to portray their enemies as both powerful, and pathetic.
Russia is fascist, and declares “the west” to be both the great satan who threatens Russkiy Mir and their very existence for which they were forced to go to war, and simultaneously is full of weak decadent coward homeosexual liberals. its the fascist duality
So kinda like russia is both very threatening to european and unable to take ukraine?
Maybe if “the west” is so concerned about Putin they should stop buying him gaz.
But why would they do that? They get cheap energy, fund their enemies, and have a good excuse to oppress population into war economy. Win win really
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Who couped the USSR? Their sister republics simply demanded more freedom and that caused the fragile and economically bankrupt system to collapse
To be fair, there was an attempted coup in the USSR during its collapse. It was by communist hardliners trying to prevent it collapsing, though, which doesn’t exactly scream “NATO” to me
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I guess it’s a shitpost because Hawaii is not technically covered by NATO…
True, it’s the only member of the NPTO instead
…what…?
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?? TF are you smoking?
Edit: Oh, day old account. They’re smoking .ml ban evasion juice in my wholesome shitposting community, what a clown XD
You’re one of those genocide voters aren’t ya
what’s wholesome about a military alliance, retard? It’s people who are paid to kill people, it’s the opposite of wholesome, it’s a bunch of assholes in offices bribing politicians to spread more wars and sell more bombs? Fuck you.
Am I posting in lemmybewholesome, or shitposting? Also, why are all the .club accounts I see universally new and rageposting?
I cordially invite you to remove that massive stick up your ass and enjoy a shitpost about the time NATO stopped a genocide instead of seething and pooping your pants. This is a shitposting comm, not a shitpantsing one :)
Stopping a genocide? They bombed civilians with depleted uranium asshole. I don’t wanna see your militaristic bullcrap, cunt.
Poop-poop, feel free to die mad that more of the Balkans werent “ethnically cleansed” you disgusting ugly little cretin.
Germans armed a genocide for the last 2 years, do you want another Dresden?
I mean I kindof agrees, they should all die. Germans are disguisting people anyway, nobody will miss them. Let’s bomb koln with uranium hihi
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NATO intervention was done because serbia didn’t respect UN resolution. Yet Israel is genociding people with NATO weapons for the last 2 years. Quit pretending you consider foreigners as people at all, you are not convincing anybody.
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During the intervention, they dropped depleted uranium (weapons of mass destruction) on civilians, including an hospital. Once again, you’re showing off your lust for collective punishment. I know that lust very well lmao everytime an american dies I fell warm in my heart.
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You voted for a genocider, you think I care about your righteousness?
And regarding the insult, never get doxed man, you never know what can happen. Somebody might find you, spike your loved ones with fentanyl during the night, put datura inside your butt, then proceed to drag you to a dark basement where he will smoke a few grams of crack before turning on the welding machine. When I’ll be finished with you you will ask for euthanasia.
Switzerland is nice :3
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hehe NATO, the alliance for “peace”
Okay, can you think of a reason Russia “only” attacked* Georgia and Ukraine in the recent past and not say Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania?
As a small nation you have two options:
- Build alliances and search senior partners
- Die
* attacked as in boots on the ground. They engaging in cyber attacks and other forms of physical and online sabotage in many European countries
NATO is the only reason Russia is its own country in the first place
Okay, even if the Soviet Union still existed if NATO did not form, how would that be a good thing? You know they conquered the countries like Poland? They actively fought for their freedom. And even today you can see that Russia tires to expand its sphere of influence using force and violence. They are an oppressor, not an ally.
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Poor Russia, had no agency at all. Had no choice but to become an ultranationalist shithole because NATO forced them to.
That’s the very idea of a dictature, yes. Americans had more agency in the gazans genocide (since, you know, they designate themself as a democracy) than russians, who at least know they’re in a strongmen dictature.
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Are you aware of the actual reason that NATO bombed Yugoslavia?
Oh, .ml, that explains it.
tankie detected. opinion rejected. *
Oh, .ml, that explains it.
Mayb imma jus lil fresh around here but what does that have to do with anythin?
Given that you’re on a two day old account, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
.ml is notoriously run by, and has a large population of tankies - people who support China and Russia, and defend or deny their countless atrocities. I.E. people who deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre, and say Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and all the war crimes they’ve committed are justified. Basically, anything done by a government that opposes the US is considered a good thing, no matter how evil.
Edit: Adding what Brucethemoose said into my comment directly because its important. Being critical of the US or NATO doesn’t make you a tankie. The problem is excusing genocide because it was commited by someone outside NATO or the US allies.
And to be clear, the larger part of non-tankie Lemmy is just fine acknowledging recent, heinous western atrocities, though doesn’t give NATO quite as much thought I suppose (in lieu of the raging dumpster fires in our own backyards).
The larger part of users maybe.
Worldists admins are genocide supporters.
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No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of their member states.
No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of the US’s economic interests.
There, FTFY
But that’s not true. Why do you guys repeat such propaganda without question? Countless nations have messed with the US’s economic interests throughout history, how many times has NATO gotten involved?
The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.
The US can and absolutely does wreck shit up for the sake of their own interests, regardless of international law. “NATO” only comes into play when either other countries are willing to step in or the US might need a veneer of legitimacy.The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.
Well if we’re just misusing words and making things up, shit, why not say “DPRK” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests”?
I think you might need to engage in some self-reflection and consider whether you may have been influenced by Russian/Chinese propaganda. There is no rational reason to have a problem with the existence of NATO.
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No they don’t. Stop repeating propaganda.
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So then lobby your government to buy Mirage or Viggen jets instead of whining about the existence of NATO and repeating Russian and Chinese propaganda.
What country did you move to that is so much better than Canada?
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Every criticism of the military industrial complex must be a muskow envoy.
By all means, criticize the military industrial complex away. But that’s American. Not NATO procurement of French and Swedish and German military equipment. As your aforementioned article shows, they’re quite good at rooting out that kind of corruption.
But if you’re criticizing NATO and your criticism isn’t based in reality or doesn’t make sense? Yeah my bets are on either Russia or China being behind that one.
You want us yuropeans to die for your goddamn war.
What war? NATO isn’t at war. But if you’re in Europe, sooner or later, you’re going to be fighting Russia. They’re not going to stop at Donbass.
You think we forgot what happened when the said Russians got sick of dying for the tsar so you guys quit fighting Germany and attacked them instead? Or that time when you Yanks sent them Yeltsin and then the eastern block got destabilized to this day?
You seem to have forgotten halfway through writing your comment that I am Canadian, not American. Then for some reason you repeated some more Russian propaganda about America “sending them Yeltsin” and being entirely to blame for a destabilized Eastern Europe.
You have just as much blood on your stupid hands
You can’t even remember what country I’m from. You’re just rambling random eastern propaganda like a drunk person.
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You have evidence they have engaged in bribery?
north atlantic trade org
where peace
Trade Org
Proppah shitepost
“The US foreign policy enforcement gang”
NATO doesn’t really do much other than scare Russia and China. There were a couple of debatable interventions in Europe, and the US did demand everyone join them in Afghanistan, but not Iraq, for example. NATO doesn’t just automatically go where America goes. They have actual rules that have to be cited, like Article 5.
The rest of the world were willing participants in Afghanistan. The US didn’t have to do anything to “force” them.
Iraq and Afghanistan are interlinked stories, but the way they played out with world support was very, very different.
Afghanistan was a NATO Article 5 mission. We didn’t stick around a minute after the NATO mission was over.
And nobody especially objected to it. Not even much from outside of NATO, excepting Afghanistan itself.
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NATO isn’t corrupting anyone. And I’m Canadian, my grandma’s doing alright.
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That article doesn’t mention Von Der Leyen, let alone any apartment or Belgian police, and it’s an article about NATO cracking down on corruption, not letting it happen. And Von Der Leyen is not the leader of NATO, she is the leader of the European Commission.
Russia and China have spent the past few decades infiltrating leftist groups and spreading their unrelated propaganda in them. “Hey guys, it’s me, your fellow Marxist. Like you, I also want to bring power to the people and end capitalism, but you know what we need to end first? NATO.”
As I was saying, when you try to speak about something, please be aware of basic facts about the subject matter, retard.
https://www.voanews.com/a/europe_new-eu-president-sleep-her-office/6176947.html
She lives there because it cannot be searched. The commission enjoys extraterritoriality.
Are you a fucking retard. I’m Belgian, my grandma died of anemia because the retirement house was understaffed. Of course i don’t want a bunch of yank and cannies telling us to buy more shit while OUR PEOPLE ARE DYING. Fuck you and your retardedd amerikan maccarthist bullshit. Kill yourself.
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