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minus-squareu_tamtam@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down7·1 year agoWho is “we” exactly? Most developed countries have reduced their emissions so much that they’ve been producing less CO2 per Capita than China for a very long time (like, a decade for the whole of the EU if I remember correctly). https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita-vs-gdppc?zoomToSelection=true&endpointsOnly=1&time=earliest..latest&country=CYP~DNK~FIN~FRA~DEU~ITA~NLD~POL~PRT~SVK~ESP~SWE~GBR~CHN~JPN~USA And I see you coming, no, it’s not because China exports lots of stuff for the rest of the world: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/production-vs-consumption-co2-emissions?country=CHN~OWID_EU27
minus-squareqantravon@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6·1 year agoI was calling out the (mostly conservatives) who repeatedly say that we shouldn’t make any effort to reduce emissions because “China is worse”.
minus-squareu_tamtam@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoYeah, screw them. Let’s also not pretend that China is the bar to pass either. Two things can be bad.
Who is “we” exactly? Most developed countries have reduced their emissions so much that they’ve been producing less CO2 per Capita than China for a very long time (like, a decade for the whole of the EU if I remember correctly).
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita-vs-gdppc?zoomToSelection=true&endpointsOnly=1&time=earliest..latest&country=CYP~DNK~FIN~FRA~DEU~ITA~NLD~POL~PRT~SVK~ESP~SWE~GBR~CHN~JPN~USA
And I see you coming, no, it’s not because China exports lots of stuff for the rest of the world: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/production-vs-consumption-co2-emissions?country=CHN~OWID_EU27
I was calling out the (mostly conservatives) who repeatedly say that we shouldn’t make any effort to reduce emissions because “China is worse”.
Yeah, screw them. Let’s also not pretend that China is the bar to pass either. Two things can be bad.