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I am literally friends with a woman that decided when she lived in Japan that the more lower classl/colloquial form of Japanese was easier and only spoke that. So there is a white, Ph. D., upper class woman that speaks fluent Japanese, but only like a Yakuza.
a woman that decided when she lived in Japan that the more lower classl/colloquial form of Japanese was easier
It’s not that she decided it was easier, it’s just a fact. For example:
casual: taberu - [subj] eats. This is the form listed in the dictionary and can be used as is.
basic polite: tabemasu. Used with strangers.
humble: itadakimasu. Used to talk about your own eating when in conversation with a superior.
honorific: meshiagarimasu. Used to refer to a superior eating.Basically the more polite something is the longer the verb form. One of the be-verbs goes from casual to polite as da --> desu --> degozaimasu
I practiced most of my Japanese conversation skills by hanging out in bars so I know the struggle with using polite forms.
How do Yakuza speak?
I don’t speak Japanese, but it is a combination of slang and lack of formal addresses, conjugations, or cases. Like Romance languages having formal and informal versions of “you” and using terms like monsieur.
My buddy in Korea learned a lot of his Korean from his Korean wife. Korea. Now, apparently he speaks Korean like a woman.
I’m dead
For someone learning English, the first thing I think of is the aunt of a lady that I took Norwegian classes from. My teacher said it’s really common in Norway for families that can afford to do so to send their kids to a summer camp in the UK when they’re around 14 or so, where they only speak English for a few months to really polish their accent and fluency. Her aunt’s parents were a bit behind the ball, though, and all the English summer camps had already filled up by the time they tried booking a place for her, but they found a camp still taking applications in Arkansas. So, all her other relatives speak with posh, British accents, and then her one aunt rolls into the room, talking with a heavy twang that throws everyone off.
I’m gonna sound like an AI when I talk to people in Chinese because Duolingo.
Theres a real thing where people learn english from watching influencers and actually talk to people with that god awful influencer voice.
Thought it was gonna be this one
Literally this pakistani dude (couldn’t find any other link) https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKh19TWILbv/
As a Japanese person, I find it really cringey when people speak like anime, but I do my best to applaud their efforts because no matter how silly it may sound, they appreciate my culture enough to want to learn.
I used duolingo to learn Italian, nothing ever stuck…so i decided to ad in Italian shows and movies. Didn’t help either, i think my storage must be filled up or faulty.
Don’t feel bad about the duo lingo, it’s not meant to actually work. There’s a video my girlfriend showed me recently, if I can maybe find it…
I find that it’s a decent replacement to learn basic vocabulary and that’s about the extent.
I knew a French guy who sounded like John Wayne because of westerns. Other than the country twang he had no accent.
Fuhgidaboudit!
I taught at an English school in Osaka for a couple of years in my 20s and ended up getting told that in Japanese I sometimes sounded like a little kid because I taught a bunch of kids classes and picked up some language from them. I’m a 6’4 Australian man with a very deep voice.
When I was a kin in the 70s, we had an exchange student from a little town in Sonora Mexico stay with us. His english wasn’t great (though much better than my spanish), but he had this really strange accent. It turned out that he loved old hollywood gangster movies, so he was talking like Edward G Robinson, but with a thick spanish accent over the top.
Nyan, si, nyan.
The anime torrent site?
This is one of the common tropes in Sora the Troll’s videos on non-native Japanese speakers. The subjects only consume anime, so they end up duplicating that way of speaking; but anime, like most Japanese entertainment, is like… Old school theatre? It’s purposely exaggerated and over-the-top, so talking like that IRL is just weird. What makes it extra funny is that the skits are also over-exaggerated and over-the-top, so they also sound like anime. lol
Reminds me of Trevor Noah’s bit about going to Germany and learning his accent makes him sound like Hitler.
hahahahaha that was excellent
Lol. This does make me assume that Trevor was learning German by watching Hitler’s speeches.
in a separate video of his stand up comedy he says he downloaded random German speeches to play while falling sleep to help immersion learning, and some of them happened to be Hitler’s lol
Trevor does amazing accents without mocking anyone.
