• @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    761 year ago

    They’ve already been caught lying…

    Even the videos produced so far have raised questions under scrutiny. A BBC analysis found the footage of an IDF spokesperson showing the apparent discovery of a bag containing a gun behind an MRI scanning machine, had been taped hours before the arrival of the journalists to whom he was supposedly showing it.

    In a video shown later, the number of guns in the bag had doubled. The IDF claimed its video of what it found at the hospital was unedited, filmed in a single take, but the BBC analysis found it had been edited.

    They knew there was a large basement, because they built it…

    Israeli forces say they are still carefully exploring the site. The video presentation of al-Shifa did show the main facilities lay deep underground, and it is quite possible the Israeli soldiers have not reached them yet, so there could be much more to come. But the attempt to present what has been found so far as significant is bound to fuel scepticism about whatever is presented later.

    There are questions over how much of its graphic presentation of the network under al-Shifa was based on what Israel knew already; its own architect had built an extensive basement area there the last time Israel directly occupied Gaza, up to 2005.

    And even if they weren’t lying, it’s still not enough to get around the Geneva Convention…

    All of this is significant under the Geneva conventions, which forbid military operations against hospitals unless “they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy”. This exception, spelled out in article 19 of the fourth Geneva convention, states specifically: “… the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants and not yet handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy”.

    There’s no rationale reason to believe any claims made by Netanyahu’s government. Time after time they make these outrageous claims, and if they actually try to show evidence it turns out to be at best a misrepresentation, but often outright fabrication

    • @TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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      411 year ago

      Man, it’s almost like apartheid governments engaging in ethnic cleansing can’t be trusted to operate in good faith or something. Imagine that.

    • @EurekaStockade@lemmy.world
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      231 year ago

      If that MRI machine is in use then that gun can’t have been there very long, the extremely powerful magnetic field means metal objects can not be present in the same room while the machine is active.

      • @msage@programming.dev
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        91 year ago

        Just yesterday I saw a video where a chair exerted 2000 pounds of force when next to the working MRI machine.

        Can’t imagine guns being near.

      • Silverseren
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        31 year ago

        I would presume the MRI was in use up until the hospital’s electricity was cut when the IDF started its siege a couple days ago. So those guns apparently manifested in that bag in that location since then. Which really does make them seem planted.

  • Yardy Sardley
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    591 year ago

    So they found almost as many guns as a typical American household and like, a calendar written in Arabic? Yeah, they should definitely keep looking. I’m sure the weapons of mass destruction are in there somewhere. /s

      • @grte@lemmy.ca
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        231 year ago

        Why would they need to? Did that person bomb the hospital and now needs to justify it?

        • @Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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          -351 year ago

          The best thing to do with those tunnels is just blow them up. But now they will be forced to enter to give the weenies some sort of proof. They found dead hostages and a large amount of weapons but that isn’t enough.

          • Leraje
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            141 year ago

            As far as I’m aware, they found one dead hostage near, not at, the hospital, 1 vehicle with weapons, a film of a cache of weapons that BBC analysis showed had been edited and altered and 1 tunnel shaft.

            Even if we take all that at face value (which the BBC analysis demonstrates we shouldn’t), this is hardly the command centre of Hamas that the IDF has led us to believe was its reason for bombing a hospital.

          • Annoyed_🦀
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            141 year ago

            Blow them up without actual proof of any “main HQ used by enemy” but only intel gained from multiple source, and kill thousands of refugees, dozens of doctor, and hundreds of patients, under a protected ground by the Geneva Convention which UN member have to observe.

            You sir are fucking brilliant.

          • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            Dead people at a hospital!?!!?!? No way!

            This isn’t complex and I’ve not actually seen any proof of dead hostages nor are we likely to find it anytime soon. I imagine I’m a couple days Israel will say they have genetic matches while ignoring the fact they keep genetic records of their citizens.

  • @Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world
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    201 year ago

    I like the two random giant bullets of different calibers arranged next to the AK as if to suggest that rifle could suddenly become capable of firing them. If the IDF had found either of the guns capable of firing those rounds it would be front and center of their “evidence,” because those guns are huge and scary looking.

    Those rounds are about the right size for a soldier to carry around in their pocket to “find” and imply the existence of heavier weapons, but I’m sure the IDF would never stoop to such obvious and underhanded tactics.