IDK, I do feel like the “can you define those terms and give examples” is a pretty clear tee-up to define those terms and list the incredibly abundant examples that exist for each one.
I’m not real hopeful that sealion-graphic would have taken the point and all of a sudden started making sense (it sounds like they’re pretty deep into a propaganda bubble) but I do think it’s a fair question and an invitation to start making the arguments concrete. It’s hard to understand just how little grasp of what’s really going on the average Trump supporter has; they live almost entirely within a fantasy-world created by the media they consume.
The guy doesn’t really have to be arguing in bad faith, he is just deluded. Somewhere out there is a writing by someone who was deeply religious until talking on the internet and having their beliefs challenged eventually (after quite a while) snapped them out of it, which I think is exactly how it can work for the Trump people.
I don’t really know what the percentage is. I do think that talking to people and giving them a chance (at least for a little while, you don’t have to expend unlimited energy on it) to become some of the right side of the percentage is a decent thing to do.
IDK, I do feel like the “can you define those terms and give examples” is a pretty clear tee-up to define those terms and list the incredibly abundant examples that exist for each one.
I’m not real hopeful that sealion-graphic would have taken the point and all of a sudden started making sense (it sounds like they’re pretty deep into a propaganda bubble) but I do think it’s a fair question and an invitation to start making the arguments concrete. It’s hard to understand just how little grasp of what’s really going on the average Trump supporter has; they live almost entirely within a fantasy-world created by the media they consume.
The guy doesn’t really have to be arguing in bad faith, he is just deluded. Somewhere out there is a writing by someone who was deeply religious until talking on the internet and having their beliefs challenged eventually (after quite a while) snapped them out of it, which I think is exactly how it can work for the Trump people.
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Some people, yes. Some other people change their minds.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/trump-voters-are-regretting-their-ballot-choices
https://www.politicalflare.com/2025/02/i-feel-so-stupid-poll-shows-huge-percentage-of-trump-voters-regretful-after-his-sweeping-dismantling-of-american-values/
I don’t really know what the percentage is. I do think that talking to people and giving them a chance (at least for a little while, you don’t have to expend unlimited energy on it) to become some of the right side of the percentage is a decent thing to do.