• BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
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    4 个月前

    We’re upvoting Hasan stuff? That’s what we’ve come to? Bernie didn’t even say anything wrong.

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      Step 1. Do not address the argument made by Hasan.

      Step 2. Hurr Durrr Bernie good? Israel no genocide Netanyahu bad?! Israel has the right to defend itself!!

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              You have to be poor and struggle to talk about struggle of others? What kind of stupid argument is this Cosplay or not i don’t care he still documenting stuffs

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          I’m so glad somebody agrees. That’s exactly what he is, and why I cannot respect him or his opinions. He is a self-proclaimed propagandist.

          And you were called a right-wing troll. Is it hard to believe there are people on the left that don’t like Hasan? I guess you didn’t specify if you are or not, but I can at least speak certainly about myself. That other person said I should listen to what Hasan has to say, and it just really reminded me of what my mom would say about Rush Limbaugh. It’s the exact same thing, just a different flavor of bullshit.

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            Let them , they only make posts staying on thr top the longest way possible

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              The only mainstream progressive influencer to take a stand against Israel from the start when it was the least popular position. Must be doing everything for clout. Go back to r/Destiny dude.

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                  you think he’s the ONLY mainstream influencer to take a stand against Isreal.

                  Yes. When it was unpopular that is. Now that ‘one day everyone will have always been against this’ is approaching the actual grifters come crawling over.

                  You keep mentioning the word ‘grift’ I don’t think you understand what it means.

                  Palestine is the ultimate anti-grifter test and Hasan has passed it with flying colors by never endorsing the Democrats if they didn’t compromise to Palestine despite all the turbolibs screaming at him

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        1. I don’t respect him, or his takes.

        2. Not a fan of Bernie, either. Definitely not a fan of Isreal. I’m trying to think of any political commentators or politicians or activists I don’t dislike, and all I have are AOC and Gretchen Whitmer. And I think Greta.

        Bonus opinion, I don’t think there should be any violence from the protesters. Regardless of what the police or national guard do. Arrests, tear gas, rubber bullets, just take it. Don’t throw things, don’t loot, no masks, just take it. A protest is serious business, and I think you should be willing to accept any consequences from it if you really support the cause you’re fighting for, whether it is imprisonment, injury, or death. If you aren’t, don’t protest. Everybody remembers MLK being arrested. Everybody remembers Tank Man from Tiananmen Square. Everybody remembers Rosa Parks. Hopefully, everybody remembers Rachel Corrie. Their acts were so impactful because of the stark contrast between their peaceful non-violence and the response to them.

        If there is any property damage done, let it be by the cops. Deep down, I believe most people are materialistic and somewhat selfish. If their car gets torched during a protest by protesters, they’re probably going to get pissed at the protesters! You want the support of the masses. Of businesses. If you’re a shop owner, and your windows get blown out by teargas and rubber bullets, you’re probably going to be way more pissed at the cops than the polite people just gathered in the street.

        From the outside, to the centrists and the old people who still watch the news, a quiet (but huge) group of people getting pelted with tear gas and rubber bullets is so much more sympathetic than (hypothetically) some person in a mask chucking rocks at the police, waving a foreign flag. Again, sympathetic to people less left leaning. In my opinion.

        Conversely, if someone thinks violence is the answer, I don’t think that’s a protest. That’s a fight. A revolution. And that energy should be directed, planned. Not just riot style destruction.

        That’s all I’ve got, peace.

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          Cool story look up Black Panthers. MLKs peaceful marches accomplished nothing except building a movement. Change came from the riots.

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            Those type of people live in fantasy world

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            Well, I’m afraid we’ll just have to disagree and leave it at that. I guess I just wanted to express that I wasn’t just coming from a place of “hurr durr Bernie good.”