Ok, how do we feed Torrents of movies through an LLM?
Great! I’m just going to go train this model on every movie ever made. I’ll share my source data for free so people can verify that it’s legit!
Generate a complete script for “Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning” but replace all occurrences of “the” with “teh”, then file a copyright claim for the new script.
The alternative is having Hollywood own every video generation model.
Same for music, 70% of all music globally is owned by three record companies. Elton is being asked by them to do this, because the public wouldnt be so sympathic with Warner Bros Studio in the headline instead.
Cool, so piracy is legal to feed my LLM?
Depends. How rich are you already?
In most somewhat-but-not-completely sane places, the part of piracy that is illegal/criminal is distributing the copyrighted material, so downloading it to feed an LLM would already not really be an issue. The “problem” here is that most of these LLMs are used for commercial purposes, which is not allowed, and some claim LLMs are a form of distributing the copyrighted material.
If your LLM is only for personal use, then yeah that’s probably totally fine already, unless you live in one of the completely not sane places where both receiving and distibuting copyrighted material are illegal/criminal.
AI is just the new cool way for billion-dollar tech companies to steal even more from people.
Bullshit, why give them special treatment? Just dumpster the whole copyright system.
So what would you replace it with so the creator of music gets paid?
Nothing, but only if they’re quite serious about demolishing IP law. If we’re going to do this, let’s not half ass it for a couple of spoiled rich kids, let’s go all or nothing.
Nothing? So the creator should spend insane amounts to make a song or movie or a ton of time to create a new painting but they shouldn’t be paid?
Not if we’re just giving it away to the richest people on earth to feed into a plagiarism generator, no. There’s either IP law for everyone, and EVERYONE gets DMCA, or there’s IP law for nobody. Nobody is above the law, including AI execs.
So I ask again. Exactly what are we replacing it with?
Well, let’s replace it with whatever they’re doing for the AI companies.
Everyone should take note conditional soup has yet to give a solid answer as to how the artist actually gets paid. So here’s a good question for everybody who’s reading this if an artist doesn’t get paid why would they continue?. And by artist, I mean, painter, singer, actor, songwriter, etc.
I’m moving onto another conversation