Other images displayed by Trump during meeting with South African president Cyril Ramaphosa were false or misleading
The evidence of supposed mass killings of white South Africans presented by Donald Trump in a tense White House meeting on Wednesday were in some cases images from the Democratic Republic of Congo, while footage shown during the meeting was falsely portrayed as depicting “burial sites”.
“These are all white farmers that are being buried,” said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by a picture during the contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.
The picture accompanying the article was in fact a screengrab of a video published by Reuters on 3 February and subsequently verified by the news agency’s fact check team, showing humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot after deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.
Well
Where is Congo?
Is it in the north?
I rest my case /s
I heard the photos were supplied by the US based neo fucking Nazi group American Tinker.
Evergreen
Quick, post it a third time
It just applies in so many situations!!! 🤷♂️
It’s the same situation.
To choose SA of all places for this particular agenda has to be the most ironic thing I’ve heard in a while 🤦♂️ quite brave asw considering Musk’s family history
Ramaphosa was right to ask “I’d like to know where that is”, when the “evidence” was shown to him live.
Other world leaders should be prepared to challenge Trump right to his face when he fabricates lies like this in those pathetic ambush attempts.
Lying liar lies again.
Honestly, I don’t know if he’s knowingly lying or just genuinely fucking stupid.
In his defence (feels dirty and weird typing that) he’s probably being lied to. I have very little clue about the legitimacy of information I get on world news, as everybody has an agenda and misinformation is so easy to create and disseminate. If he’s got to be on the case with basically every issue, he’ll just be getting fed information and has to trust that his advisors know what they’re doing. I wouldn’t bother fact checking everything if I were in that position, there’s simply not enough hours in the day.
Of course he’s also a confirmed liar and a known prick so who knows.
Fun fact, it’s both! He knows he’s lying all the time and doesn’t care. He’s also stupid.
This is the right answer. Life has already shown him that operating on a level playing field and being honest, really doesn’t get a guy like him very far. So the genius workaround is to lie your pants off instead, and build an alternative environment around yourself where you can’t lose.
My theory is that he’s so narcissistic that he genuinely believes every thought that comes into his mind is the truth.
You can tell he is lying because he’s talking
Same energy.
How does that happen? Who goes “text text text, blah blah blah, now I need a specific flag, let’s definitely type ‘flag’ and tediously look for the right one, because typing [country name] would be too easy”? I get that they look VERY similar and I couldn’t tell you which one is which if they’re side-by-side but that doesn’t fucking matter if you simply ask your keyboard for the country! Gaaaaaawddddddd.
Romania: 🇷🇴 Chad: 🇹🇩
Same for stereotypical USians going “yeeeeah 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷”
Legit identical on my phone.
Also I use the Liberia flag ironically all the time. It’s fun to see who notices.
There’s a miniscule difference in the yellow. Also eeeever so slightly more “shine” in Chad’s red.
source believe me bro
Not for me
This is what I see.
i second
SDE
I don’t think anybody in our federal government that’s in charge of anything has any good intentions at all at this point
he would have said that these were real coffins for white farmers children if they didn’t have the palestinian flag on them.
What is this photograph? Isn’t it AI?
It was a demonstration in London: https://www.sopaimages.com/galleries/62294
Worse, it’s an image of Britain.
A lot of really distateful comments here, genuinely surprised they weren’t deleted by mods
Also doesn’t mean that the radical party EFF lead by Julius Malema (also known as Cunt) does not sing Kill the Boer at the rallies. Boer is Afrikaans for a farmer, it is also common slang for a white Afrikaner. If you think that is ok to do, you can fuck right off.
That’s a far cry from genocide though
Kill the Boar
I’ll be honest with you I don’t give a god damn fuck. Kids getting bombed in Gaza, whatever trump cares about I do not. if he cares about white African farmers I do not.
My comment had nothing to say about Gaza. But OK I understand your view, killing of some is ok…
Can you point me to any examples of white genocide in South Africa? Surely there would be at least one news article.
Doesn’t mean that we don’t have a violence issue in South Africa. Our killing stats are on par with countries at war. Think about that for a minute
No one is saying that South Africa doesn’t have a violence problem just that “white genocide” is a lie.
Indeed the president of South Africa said exactly that in the meeting.
I recall the SA president saying they do have a violence problem, just not in the way trump is describing it.
Yes sorry I was unclear. The South African president said that South Africa has a violence problem, not just for white farmers.
Ah, got it!
Sorry, I meant no one in this post. It’s not shocking that thr president would try to downplay someth8ng like that.
SA is violent however there isn’t an attempt by the government to genocide the white population
Any theories why?
Well I did a little research and there was this thing called Apartheid. It sounded pretty bad. Might have something to do with the race relations out there.
What about those that weren’t from Congo?
The one was a picture of a large number of crosses which Trump said was a burial site for 1000s of white farmers, when it was in fact a memorial following the death of 2 farmers. The memorial was intended to represent all farm deaths of all races. Farm deaths are an issue but the victims are of all races - they kill the farmers, their families and the workers.
There was a video of a political leader singing a song that translates to “Kill the Boer” i.e. kill the white Afrikaans farmer. This video is: a) more than a decade old, b) from a rally of a minority opposition party i.e. not the political party of the people Trump was meeting, c) from a political party that has been losing votes in recent elections, led by someone who was expelled from the ruling party, d) is of a historic protest song from the apartheid era i.e. more than 30 years ago.
This video resulted in a court case, where the court concluded that a “reasonably well-informed person” would understand that when a protest song is sung “even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence.”
This video was a big deal at the time but it’s not current, not representative of the government’s view, and the person depicted in it is increasingly being sidelined in South African politics.
“Liar tells several lies, claims they are truth.”
“Okay, but what else did he say? Maybe we should listen to the liar?”
Such as?
This question really shouldn’t be that hard to answer. Here’s the video that was shown at the Whitehouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLDl3mblm-c
Video of the full meeting (I set the link to skip ahead to the part where the TV is brought in) if you want to see President Cyril Ramaphosa’s reaction to it: https://odysee.com/@NTD:2/live-trump-holds-bilateral-meeting-2:5?t=1313
Besides the video of the crosses along the road, there are video clips of the Economic Freedom Fighter’s leader, Julius Malema calling for a bloody revolution as well as chanting with large crowds to “kill the Boer” (white man/farmer).
There are no timestamps/locations for any of the video clips, but it looks like this guy founded the Economic Freedom Fighters back in 2013.
Edit: typo
Yeah, all of this is explained in the article.
Yes and you were the one asking the questions about things that are explained in the article so I responded with some context.
You’ve misread the conversation. I’m not the one asking for the obvious.
And i like your comment, btw, it’s well written.
Please explain.
Edit: I see your edit… But I must still be misreading the conversation.
Even after double checking the username, you were the one that said, “Such as?”I edited my reply a little.
The person i was talking to is the one that hasn’t read the article and it’s asking questions in bad faith. I was asking them to clarify what was confusing them, basically, Knowing they were asking in bad faith.
Shared with me from a South African friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvp1FOir4Y
Oops, you weren’t supposed to ask about those.
Which ones are those? Care to point them out?
So far only one of them appeared to be from congo. What about the rest? Are we going to throw it all out because one was from Congo, and because a memorial mistaken for a burial site (literally makes no difference)
It’s a government official making a claim based on easily verifiable bad evidence, so if the whole thing wasn’t suspect before, it most certainly is now, right? Why should we give the benefit of the doubt? Not only has the administration not earned that right, they’ve shown over and over again that they don’t extend that benefit to anyone else.
It fucking amazes me that we don’t hold our leaders to a higher standard, and it worries me that people don’t seem to want to.
If it is easily verifiable, then how about we verify it right now? So what about those other cases not from Congo?
Why should we give the benefit of the doubt?
Because people are dead, and it is the choice between “ingore” or “start and investigation”
I agree trump is a hack, but I want to know about those other cases.
Try reading the article for starters.
What are the other ones exactly?
That’s what we’re asking. Can you stop?
Im asking you which you’re talking about. Everyone else already knows the answer.
“The evidence of supposed mass killings of white South Africans presented by Donald Trump in a tense White House meeting on Wednesday were in some cases images from the Democratic Republic of Congo, while footage shown during the meeting was falsely portrayed as depicting “burial sites”.”
“In some cases” means less than a majorty of the cases. We’re talking about the rest. Do you and “everyone else” know something about these other ones we don’t?
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