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Supply and Demand
American manufacturers say they are struggling to fill the jobs they already have.
That means there’s a demand for workers that is bigger than the supply, so as a consequence, the price for labor (aka. wages) should rise. If it does not, the demand was fake.
Yep. They are mostly looking for qualified workers, but they want to pay and provide job benefits and security like for a burger flipper at McD.
recruiting and retaining workers was their No. 1 business challenge.
Have they tried things like attractive working conditions and a salary that is actually competitive?
Haha best we can do is mandatory overtime and 50% staffing.
Poor locations, poor conditions/protections, poor wages. Just a guess.
If i had to guess its cause the plants don’t pay enough and those very jobs used to be filled by Hispanic people that didn’t mind the dirty work.
Also just … Unemployment is still near historic lows. Where do they expect all these workers to come from? (While also deporting other employed individuals)
The answer is pay…
I live in a VHCOL area and the factory that I work at is still looking to hire people at $17/hr… That’s taco bell wages. Hell at this point that’s less than taco bell wages around here…
I was in a teacher conference and some parents were flipping out that she wasn’t providing after school support to their dipshit child. She pointed out she makes 41k.
That’s $20.50 an hour. She could work at Costco for $30 an hour.
That’s $20.50 an hour. She could work at Costco for $30 an hour.
I wish! It’s really hard to get into Costco because people like working there so much they don’t leave! Lol I tried and they generally only take a few people in from their seasonal hires, working in the bakery I guess I was too “hidden” and didn’t get chosen to stay lol
That is what the soda bottling plant paid back in '96.
I feel like this is one of the major issues we face when it comes to pay. The people setting the prices are stuck living in 2000 thinking they’re offering a good wage, then “The Market” does it’s thing and every asshat looks at every other asshats offerings and sets their wages similarly…
To be fair the factory in town in paying me 24.24 an hour and it still isn’t enough to deal with the damage it is doing to my body. I am already looking for another job. And this shit union, but goddamn at 45 can’t do it. Also it reported that it will be 120 to 130 degrees Fahrenheit this summer is inside. Also working 12 hour switch shifts suck too.
The temperature thing seems like it should be fixable and the union should call for it.
Shouldn’t OSHA have taken care of it? You may have missed that boat, but that seems like unhealthy working conditions
Unfortunately my union is fucking weak. They just had a new contract negotiated. In it they caved to the company only wanting to give a 2.36% raise and oh they voted that new hires like me get zero raise. Also the health benefits suck. Really not great union.
Yep, our techs make like $28 to start, but when in n out workers make $23, is it even worth it?
Also, if you are reliable and literally just show up to work reliably, retail is an easy ladder to climb because there is soooo much of it literally everywhere. Store managers earn 100k pretty easily.
Pay and working conditions
Pay more.
Manufacturing jobs are damn boring. Having worked at a manufacturer (as the IT guy). Workers on the floor spend 8 hours a day doing the same task all day. It’s boring af.
So have been working the same job for decades, but moving up? Not happening. You could be a manager and get a few dollars more an hour.
You can get a factory job easy. Stay clean and show up. You just won’t be rolling in money.
I think there is something of a concerted effort to lionize these boring jobs that used to support a family.
It is amazing how many country / blue grass songs are about coal mining.
The thing the wealthy don’t seem to understand is that what made these jobs worth identifying with was that they could support a family. People were proud to provide a good life for their loved ones.
They are hoping they can get people to identify with the jobs, be proud of them, without having to hold up their end of the bargain.
The entire world right now seems to be the wealthiest people going “can’t I have a little bit more though?”
I think some of lionization may have roots in the need to recognize and legitimize those professions as a prerequisite for unionization, and to recognize post hoc the men and women who struggled to unionize and get respect in the form of reasonable working conditions and pay.
Coal mining has almost never been enough to support a family, though it was regular work. Regular work is a thing of the past in Appalachia.
A lot of those jobs were retail and clerical. With pension instead of scam my 401k tied to the stock market that benefited the rich the most. And insurance that covered vision and dental s a straight 80/20 no dumb tricks. And paid life, death and dismemberment and if fortunate, paid lunch. At 90+ percent highest income by corporate and individual income tax.
Yeah, back in the day, you didn’t need to be a manager to generate upward mobility. You could work 40 hours a week and pay for a house, a car, and a college education without going into debt.
It’s hard on the body and over time, the toll is phenomenal. We’ve lived large on the low wage
withersworkers overseas we (collectively speaking) disdain.
One thing I’ve noticed is that my dad, who is getting up there in age, recently fell for the trap of “the youth don’t wanna work anymore” and “they’re too afraid of hurting themselves” arguments.
Yeah, we definitely would rather collect unemployment if it’s better than 900% of all jobs willing to hire and yes we don’t want our bodies being mangled and destroyed by factory accidents, without compensation of course.
Hell, I’ve been thinking of some creative ways to make a little extra money on the side through some shady dealings, and I’m still living with my parents and in college. Just need a shit ton of prep to avoid being caught online.
From the article it seems like the answer probably seems to be a mix between pay and more importantly training. If these businesses want specialized workers they have to be willing to train these workers. You got to make an investment in your Workforce.
when eggs are rare the price of eggs goes up. the same holds with labor. the issue is not americans filling jobs, it’s employers paying proper wages for them.
oh no, profit will take a hit? where is your priority? that’s right, it’s to the shareholders. :/
I’m not working in the fucking factories, NPR.
