I’ve only ever seen one comment from nutomic cited as evidence of transphobia. And its a DM responding to some mystery comment that is never posted alongside it. A bit suspicious when the only evidence is presented without context.
Though it does contain the transphobic dogwhistle, “biological man,” but that term is also one a reasonable person could reasonably reach from a place of ignorance. He also admitted to knowing very little about trans issues.
Also the trans comments are just one in a list of things. Without context there’s no way to know if those even are his own ideas, or a summery of the mystery comment he’s responding to, but also clearly disagrees with.
The opposition to nutomic on the basis of transphobia feels very much like a witch hunt. This doesn’t seem like strongly held anti-trans beliefs. People are occasionally wrong or misinformed about things. And that’s okay!
Edit: misremembered the specific language in the quote
People act like “snowflakes” when it comes to certain subjects and jump to conclusions full of wrong assumptions. Even though I hate this term, I feel like it’s the accurate one.
Remember: if you don’t know, you’re a transphobe. If you don’t act, you’re a transphobe. If you’re wrong and are willing to learn, you’re still a transphobe and you’ll always be. at some point if you exist, you’re transphobic. - same issue applies for many other things. People love talking shit and their words often have no real meaning or base
I was pretty clearly asking the person who posted the screenshots.
You’re doing that annoying thing that redditors started doing where you barge into a conversation several replies deep answering a question by pretending to be the person who was asked.
There are plenty of messages in this thread that are not asking a specific user for their thoughts, you could reply to instead. Read the room.
And? I’m not impersonating anyone. I’m just giving my opinion and discussing.
How about not being a dick? Damn.
Fun fact: in a forum-like environment, most conversations are between multiple people, and people are encouraged to jump in at any point if they feel like they have something to add to the conversation.
I asked them specifically because they demonstrated knowledge of the situation. I care about their opinion, not yours. You would know this if you read what I wrote.
This is not a forum like environment. Forums sort messages chronologically. Lemmy messages are nested, and you can reply at any level. As a matter of courtesy you should be mindful of which level you chose to respond to.
He hasn’t apologised. If he knew very little about trans people back then, that’s bad, because he’s a socialist and should be educating himself on the whole sphere of leftism. But refusing to apologise after all this criticism, all the dozens of people who’ve asked him to apologise to his face? That means he’s really truly thought about the issue, and he isn’t ashamed of his comment.
Drag agrees with all the people under that comment who say it’s not good enough. Nutomic was still being transphobic in the thread after the “apology”.
I’ve only ever seen one comment from nutomic cited as evidence of transphobia. And its a DM responding to some mystery comment that is never posted alongside it. A bit suspicious when the only evidence is presented without context.
Though it does contain the transphobic dogwhistle, “biological man,” but that term is also one a reasonable person could reasonably reach from a place of ignorance. He also admitted to knowing very little about trans issues.
Also the trans comments are just one in a list of things. Without context there’s no way to know if those even are his own ideas, or a summery of the mystery comment he’s responding to, but also clearly disagrees with.
The opposition to nutomic on the basis of transphobia feels very much like a witch hunt. This doesn’t seem like strongly held anti-trans beliefs. People are occasionally wrong or misinformed about things. And that’s okay!
Edit: misremembered the specific language in the quote
some context
Thanks so much for posting this. Since you’re clearly more familiar with nutomic, and this conversation do you think my assessment is off base?
This context doesn’t change my conclusion, but I’m clearly a prime target for confirmation bias as I made up my mind before seeing it.
nutomic is clearly not transphobic
I’m not either, and got censored big time
People act like “snowflakes” when it comes to certain subjects and jump to conclusions full of wrong assumptions. Even though I hate this term, I feel like it’s the accurate one.
Remember: if you don’t know, you’re a transphobe. If you don’t act, you’re a transphobe. If you’re wrong and are willing to learn, you’re still a transphobe and you’ll always be. at some point if you exist, you’re transphobic. - same issue applies for many other things. People love talking shit and their words often have no real meaning or base
Who are you?
@MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip I guess
I was pretty clearly asking the person who posted the screenshots.
You’re doing that annoying thing that redditors started doing where you barge into a conversation several replies deep answering a question by pretending to be the person who was asked.
There are plenty of messages in this thread that are not asking a specific user for their thoughts, you could reply to instead. Read the room.
And? I’m not impersonating anyone. I’m just giving my opinion and discussing.
How about not being a dick? Damn.
Fun fact: in a forum-like environment, most conversations are between multiple people, and people are encouraged to jump in at any point if they feel like they have something to add to the conversation.
I asked them specifically because they demonstrated knowledge of the situation. I care about their opinion, not yours. You would know this if you read what I wrote.
This is not a forum like environment. Forums sort messages chronologically. Lemmy messages are nested, and you can reply at any level. As a matter of courtesy you should be mindful of which level you chose to respond to.
Nutomic is banned from blahaj anyway.
He hasn’t apologised. If he knew very little about trans people back then, that’s bad, because he’s a socialist and should be educating himself on the whole sphere of leftism. But refusing to apologise after all this criticism, all the dozens of people who’ve asked him to apologise to his face? That means he’s really truly thought about the issue, and he isn’t ashamed of his comment.
He has, on the lemmy.ml post
Apologizing to blahaj is something I don’t wish to my worse enemy. Blahaj is joining the lemmygrad and hexbear category for me
Link?
Here you go!
Entering it here as well if hyperlinks don’t work: https://lemmy.ml/comment/18404108
Drag agrees with all the people under that comment who say it’s not good enough. Nutomic was still being transphobic in the thread after the “apology”.
Alright then. That’s your opinion then, drag :)
And yea that wasn’t really an apology indeed