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Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.
He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.
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I have a like/dislike perspective on Hasan Piker.
Hes tankie-lite. Critical support for him in this case though, fuck ICE.
Its probably an indicator that I really need to touch grass that I’m primarily curious what Ethan Klein and Lonerbox think of this.
progressive
Pretty sure dude is a leftist. Capitalist media has never encountered this before.
Borderline tankie. Remember him being best buds with putin before russia attacked Ukraine? Dude probably still blames NATO for that.
It’s too bad they didn’t let him stream it. That would’ve been peak content.
The questioning (though harmless) is often a stepping stone to more drastic measures. In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online. This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.
The questioning (though harmless)
There’s nothing “harmless” about kidnapping people and coercing them into an interrogation.
This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.
Yep, that’s some of the harm.
In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online.
Careful. Depending on which not-the-US country you’re in, this could be flagged as anti-semitism.
Never heard of this guy but must have hit a nerve if a whole Hasbara brigade is showing up here to trash talk him.
That being said, it’s an interesting turn of events that apparently units around immigration take the role of Gestapo. Makes a lot of sense given what types of people would even want to do such a job but it’s still not what I expected when they said fascism is coming back.
Right wing groups have been targeting him for his support of Palestine and being critical of Israel.
It should be a surprise to no one that government goons are totally on board with fascism. Did anyone think for a second that they would have objections? A person that chose to be in a position of authority is going to complain when an authoritarian leader gives them more power? Yeah right. It’s all about the power trip for those thugs.
I find it crazy to hear this coming from the US. It was all over the news when Serbia detained a Croatian singer trying to cross the border or trying to deport people with Croatian citizenship, crazy to see the same thing happening in the US.
Completely normal for USA. There are plenty of people who have been hiding from imperial violence. Snowden, Assange, et al. Always has been.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-us-drone-strike-10-years
The US is like that now, under Trump, not just led by Trump.
Ive been stopped and questioned by border patrol for hours at least 3 times over the last 15 years. Apparently I’m an asshole and this is how they “get their revenge” on you. This guy was only stopped once… amateur.
These people get to ask Hasan head-empty questions for hours and get paid. To think his entire fanbase has been doing it for free this entire time
They are going after white-passing US citizens now?
Hasan is not a very pale-skin name. If his name was Bob, it might be different.
If they’re known left-wingers, yes.
Crazy that in his stream with FD a few weeks ago he was adamant that he’d be one of the last people impacted by the immigration/border control nonsense.
I think it just goes to show how, even otherwise well informed people, can underestimate how much fascism will impact them personally. It can be easy to distance yourself until it is in your face, placing you in cuffs, or forcible removing you from your home. I hope he learns a lesson from this experience.
I’m starting to feel like a lot of the takes against Hasan are in bad faith. I watched a little recap and I felt it was both clear and obvious that YOU (normal person) shouldn’t do what he did.
But being a notable person of interest who was already (questionably?) illegally caught up in a bad system, there’s reason to believe things wouldn’t take a turn for the better just because he asked to lawyer up. So he took a calculated risk and engaged with the situation enough to gather a first hand experience he could report on. Concrete evidence, there’s value in that. It was his decision to make.
To reiterate, obvious YOU don’t do that. Stay silent, lawyer up.
Yeah you don’t have to watch Hasan for too long to realize that most objections against him are empty / bad faith. If he’s guilty of anything at all it’s getting distracted by / yelling at his chat too much. But I chalk that up to general Twitch culture. The reality is that he’s politically activating and engaging tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of people who wouldn’t be otherwise, or would have been watching slop / right wing pipeline content instead. I wish there were more people like him in streaming, but obviously it’s a difficult niche to exist in.
They are in bad faith. If you watch a full argument from Hasan, it’s really difficult to not agree with him. The American centric view of the world is distorting everything. Step back, watch events from a different prospective, many things will be clearer.
Remember folks, it starts with the leftists, then it doesn’t stop until we lose for good. Every 80 years.
It didn’t start with leftists. It started with immigrants, but we didn’t do anything, because both parties are united in bigotry and vile hatred against immigrants.
we didn’t do anything,
Who is “we”? Please don’t include me in your nationalist cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
The reality is that leftists have constantly been fighting for refugees, while libs/dems have been doing worse than nothing by supporting fascism.
no, it started with leftists. It just started a lot longer ago than you think.
Idk guys, I feel like I’m not going to just let them win. I think we can dish out more than they can.
Haven’t yet. Feelings and thoughts need to become words and actions.
But here’s the thing most leftists are pseudo-leftists (AKA controlled opposition)
So deal with that first.
Wow this is bad. Even if you deem questioning necessary, it being done by border protection is a bad sign. There are other mechanisms in place for that.
The US is spiraling fast.
Question
When do who exactly deem that “questioning” journalists is a good idea? Who? Can anyone deem anyone else for “questioning”?
What are the wrong answers? What is the questions about? What do they question about and why?
Hasan is on tape saying his goal is to radicalise his audience. Calling him a journalist mightve sound plausible four years ago.
Sorry, you’re right. He’s an influencer. He will say anything that appeals to his clan. But these types are so incapable of engineering anything that doesn’t funnel into building an audience
If there were legitimate questions about someone’s affiliation with terrorist organisations it does make sense to question them regardless of if they are a journalist or not.
Edit: to clarify I don’t agree with what happened in this case and I would expect a warrant
That’s totalitarian mentality.
But… Is this the case with this guy? He can be investigated by watching and concluding that he says what he thinks is a cool leftist guy would say and don’t hold any beliefs at all to rival his need for an audience that can prove his worth to himself which quickly becomes a desperate way to live
Oh almost certainly not. I’ve clarified my comment
Like so many other political pundits, Hasan Piker is an asshole but obviously he should have the right to be that without anyone (edit with official authority) questioning him.
This. Being an asshole is totally legal.
Hasan’s a moron, but detaining him for his opinions is definitely unwarranted and stinks of the same bullshit reasons that this administration has been using to play hide and seek and deport anyone they don’t like.
I don’t know the guy. Why is he a moron?
He’s a “moron” for standing up to imperialism. Most of Lemmy just vote, fantasize about leopards, and bootlick.
He preaches hard left politics. Mostly people want to call him a moron for hot takes, but the majority of what he says is fine.
He does say some stupid things sometimes fo sho
who doesnt tho
It happens when your whole schtick is talking incessantly to a stream, especially if you are discussing politics off the dome. Its not like the majority of the dumb takes are in anything like a Speech or actual political messaging. I’m definitely guilty of this.not all of my ideas are good ideas, why would I hold an internet talking head to a higher standard?
Idk it depends on how you respond to those bad takes imo, being wrong sometimes is normal, but doubling down or refusing to see alternatives is an issue. Not saying Hasan does this per-say, I don’t watch him frequently enough to say.
Same. I dont know hasan, couldn’t pick him out of a crowd, but I’ve been on the internet long enough.
He streams for like 8 hours a day, most of which is making commentary on current events - eventually, you’ll run out of gas and say something stupid. He has a solid basis of knowledge but obviously pushes the aesthetic and ideology above any attempt to be even-handed.
He’s not as eloquent or well researched on specific topics other debate bros, even if you agree with his bottom line you can tell he struggles to deliver substantive arguments in certain moments… He has a very strong tell when he knows he’s grasping.
He’s always struck me as a horseshoe Lefty, in that he’s so far left he seems comparable to the MAGA crowd in his radical beliefs.
Maga crowd: trans people shouldn’t exist
Hasan: trans people should be respected and accepted
DicJacobus: these sound like the same thing to me
I didn’t even specify which topic I had witnessed. Don’t go putting words in someone’s mouth.
To be specific. Some of his takes on thr political situation revolving around the war in Europe is what made me think he was insane
Hasan: condemns putin
MAGAs: like putin
DicJacobus: these sound like the same thing to me
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He isn’t. There are many right wing groups purposely spreading hate to discredit him as he is one of the only left wing political streamer criticizing Israel, Russia, Democrats, etc…
Leftist. Generally if you don’t agree with someone, a dumb person will say that person is dumb. Take from that what you will
