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    a lot of people myself believe that democrats at this point are as much part of the problem, they do what the lobbyist and ultrarich want and totally ignore the voters.

    so why fight half the country to only replace trump with a scum like schumer ?

    if dnc was worth voting for then trump would never got elected. instead we have gotten lesser evil junk from them for 3 election in a row, the lesser evil that shamelessly funded a genocide when people have been struggling to buy groceries.

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    The Republican Party dies as soon as that happens. Every Republican knows it. That’s why they will fight to keep it from happening and grift the situation as long as they can.

    Fascism does not outlive the guy at its center. It can’t. Anybody who could step up to take control would have been a threat to the old leader’s position. The leader, therefore, has to make sure his people are loyal to him personally, and that tends to select for people who aren’t very competent and are incapable of fermenting the same sort of faux populist up swell.

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      The republicans realized it yesterday when he took the plane. That was the nail in the coffin of their party.

      That moment when even they admit if the dems did this; reps would go wild.

      Presidency isn’t a business that closes once the term is up. It’s a turn in the game. They kept forgetting that until the plane happened.

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        The republicans realized it yesterday when he took the plane. That was the nail in the coffin of their party.

        I’ll believe that when they do something about him

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        That was the nail in the coffin of their party.

        Thing is, I heard that multiple times during his first term.

        I’m not saying you are wrong, maybe you are right. But I’m not so easily convinced after all the shit he consistently gets away with. There were people on their covid death beds who were still anti-mask/vax and pro-Trump.

        If people are still stubbornly holding onto their beliefs as they directly face their own mortality more or less because of them, its hard to imagine a bribe being the red line.

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    Put your money where your mouth is, Letterman. You’re worth almost a half billion, so what are you risking other that being just another rich guy telling others to do the heavy lifting while you stay nice and safe?

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      Sad to say that in a fascist regime, even speaking up like this puts a target on Letterman’s back. Trump is thin-skinned and petty.

      Moving the average at “something is wrong” towards “let’s do something about it” is a step in the right direction.

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      And just what is it exactly that you are risking here just calling it down online on a forum?

      What is it you hope to achieve here in a world of updoots voters and influencers?

      You’re playing the exact same game.

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        That’s not at all true. Totally different circumstances and stakes. They’re saying that this guy has a massive fortune that could go toward this directly. They’re not saying “What are you doing other than speaking up?” as if it just stops there and Letterperson needs to “get in the streets” or something.

        Think about it like this. If it’s true that he could spend $250M and still not feel a dent, imagine what he could fund. Independent media. Thousands of artists. Political canvassers. Twitch streamers. Progressive software companies. So many ideas. That’s what they’re talking about, not whether or not he shows up at the local DSA.

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          You believe he’s doing nothing because why? He said this, and he has resources. I assume he’s acting as well.

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            Agreed. As is his followers. Followers also have power to act. This is why I don’t get why people call down these messages. It just seems like the wrong fight to pick here. It’s infighting and it’s helping no one. It needs to stop.

            I bet these are just russian bots they talk about controlling the media and shit stirring. Watch how they don’t respond to you now that you called it out. It’s the same on Reddit only on there you and I would be banned by now.

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          Noted. But he also has supporters who are also rich who could also do this. So I don’t see why making a statement was wrong. It just seems like the wrong fight to pick and useless. This. This is the infighting the right use against the left all the time and you’re ensuring it is successful. You’re not here to help anyone.

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    “…think of the solution, not the problem. If your mind was filled only with thoughts of why you were going to lose, then you couldn’t think of how to win.” - Richard Rahl

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        Garbage in, garbage out.

        We’ve got a mass media that exists to pump everyone’s brains full of Fear, Uncertainty, and Distraction.

        From local “If it bleeds, it leads” news coverage to shopping aisles full of celebrity gossip and fad diet magazines to damned near every radio channel in America being operated by two companies that are owned by white supremacist families… we’re all living in a soup of ignorance and hate. We have been since we were born.

        Is it any surprise more people are angry at Muslim migrants than local mega-churches? That foreign governments are more vilified than domestic lobbying firms? That the homosexual agenda is scarier than climate change?

        Whining about “the people” seems short-sighted when you’re living in the shadow of the Big Racist Propaganda Machine.

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          The sad part is how many otherwise nice people it’s turned into total hateful monsters, and there’s no way they’ll be brought back. We will be a full on dictatorship soon and they don’t care as long as the gays and Trans are gone.

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    Since Letterman is a millionaire I vote he starts the revolution, instead of trying to convince us to do all the work.

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    A lot of very smart people want to get rid of Trump. The main problem is the hundreds of opportunists riding on his coattails, who are currently in charge of Congress and won’t let anything happen to him because it will affect their own fortunes. Hell, some of them are just sitting silently in committee meetings because they can’t speak in Trump’s favor without committing perjury, so they refuse to respond to questions (even though that’s their job). Unless Bonespurs has his final Big Mac Attack while in office, I think we’re stuck with him until 2026, when some of his Congressional minions might lose their seats and his lock on the US government will loosen a little.

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      Do you really think there’s anything short of violence that will will cause him to leave office?

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        He left office in 2020 because the military leadership wouldn’t back him and the Mike Pence wing of the party was sick of him.

        Very possible that he gets kicked out because Peter Thiel is tired of him and wants a replacement.

        But who replaces Trump? If the Dems decide to re-run Joe Biden and Marc Anderssen joins Mike Bloomberg in chairing the DNC, what do you win by electing the Silicon Valley Certified Democrat over the Silicon Valley Certified Republican?

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        Severe medical events. But I think the most realistic hope is if enough people help replace some MAGA congresspeople in 2026 so they can stonewall the rest of his term.

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          He isn’t going through congress or obeying court orders. He’s already replaced all leadership with yes men.

          How could you think normal procedures would work? Even if they did, the democrats have shown they aren’t interested in stopping him.

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            He isn’t going through congress or obeying court orders.

            Congress rubber stamped Trump’s cabinet and actively facilitated his budgetary demands. Hell, they passed the Lake Riley Act before he took office. Bureaucrats who put up any kind of resistance have been fired en mass while Congress and the Courts did nothing to object. He’s faced no meaningful resistance.

            He doesn’t need to go through Congress because Congress is bending over backwards to appease him. He doesn’t have to respect the Courts, because the Roberts Court seems intent on clearing his path.

            An opposition legislation/court gives the bureaucracy a foundation on which to refuse compliance. Nobody is offering that.

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    The problem I have with this thinking is that people think Trump caused this and that the fascist problem will go away if he does.

    He is a symptom. We need to fix the cause. I’m not saying I have all the answers, but going back to ‘the old way of solving problems’ and not changing anything will just lead to more fascists.

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        I think it’s more that they see Trump as a confirmation of their world view.

        They feel scared and threatened, they seek evidence to confirm their feelings, and Trump provides them with the reassuring narrative that affirms their world view.

        If people could get help dealing with the things that they’re actually afraid of struggling with they wouldn’t be as engaged with fear mongering.

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          Many people agree that Trump is the head of the snake. The amount of complete lies is remarkable. I’m on the side that believes, somewhat, that the cult spell will greatly diminish if he were completely out of the picture.

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            The Trump cult will dissipate after he’s gone. But the conservative virus will absolutely still be there. They will leech on to the next Republican scum that rises through the ranks. And now that Trump has opened Pandora’s box, all the scum in that party will rise to the occasion. Trump has proven that the presidency can be a massive cash cow now. People with lots and lots of money and no morals will use that wealth to run another disgusting propaganda campaign, it’ll fool stupid Americans, and we’ll have Trump copycats in the Oval Office again.

            Conservatives cannot do anything but vote Republican. It is in their programming.

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              I won’t say Trump is the worst case scenario, however. You have to be just the right amount of fucking stupid to fuck things up as much as he has.

              Any smarter, and on the first day of his first term he would have just summoned the CIA and told them about the blackmail that Putin has. Any smarter, and he’d be able to see how alienating our allies hurts him, even if he is fully self-serving.

              Any dumber and he’d be drooling on himself, which makes it hard to get elected. He has to be at least as smart as a monkey so that he can pavlov up the right phrases that make the audience clap.

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              It is often necessary to deal with the obvious symptoms before you can start treating the cause.

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      The cure is ranked choice voting and repealing citizens united, oh and kick Rupert Murdocks bitch ass “news” network out of the country.

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      Still I got down voted lots for suggesting merely banning Afd might not be the, eh, total solution to the problem. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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      Yup.

      This is just the beginning. Trump opened doors that are permanently open now. Other bad actors will walk through them. They know now, definitively, that Americans are largely stupid and that pretty basic propaganda works on them. And our government is configured in such a shitty way that any real change requires such a large majority in Congress that we’re not going to fix all the things necessary to prevent this all from happening again.

      I hope you’re ready for permanent decline, because that’s the future for America, short of a revolution that completely rewrites our laws regarding politics. And it’ll be written in a shit ton of blood.

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        “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

        — Abraham Lincoln

        “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”

        — George W. Bush

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          Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well… Can’t get fooled again.

          • Also George W. Bush
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    IMO there are two big, fundamental and inherent problems we’re not dealing with.

    1 - Democrats don’t want to do anything, because they want to run against Republicans on this in the fall, midterms and in 2028.

    2 - The folks who voted for Trump in the first place get their news and world view from Fox News and the GOP-aligned media. They aren’t telling the same story.

    Let’s look at the fucking headlines from Fox News right now:

    • Dose of Reality: Trump targets drug prices, pharmaceutical industry with new executive order.
    • Dems defend ‘storming’ of ICE facility - DHS hits back with all the receipts
    • Trump cuts deal with America’s top rival - here’s the fairer playing field the US now has
    • Storm Clouds: Middle Eastern royal offers to donate jump jet to Trump - Dems immediately make move
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      1 - Democrats don’t want to do anything, because they want to run against Republicans on this in the fall, midterms and in 2028.

      This reminds me of the olde biology joke.

      A scientist observes a frog jumping. He [ sequentially removes legs and observes until the last leg is gone; then he] observes that a legless frog will not jump when provoked, concluding that a legless frog becomes non-compliant.

      It’s fun to absolutely render a party useless, ignore the rallies its better members are holding (and how that’s all they can do) and just decide they must not want to do anything for a reason then supplied.

      Can we beggar a question when there’s no question?

      I’m gonna need receipts; especially for the Bernie and AoC cases.

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        The Senator who went to El Salvador gets credit, Senator Chris Van Hollen, a Democrat from Maryland.

        Also I respect Cory Booker’s 24 hour speech.

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      you’re forgetting about point #3. all you need to do is watch the commercials on major us ‘news’ stations to figure out who tells the news.

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    In Germany we say “Der Klügere gibt nach, bis die Dummen die Welt reagieren”. You could translate it with “A wise man changes his mind, a fool never will until fools rule the world.”

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    Personally, I think we should skip the home.

    This loser didn’t start forgetting his wife’s name or forget to wipe his ass after shitting on a regular basis.

    He’s a fucking traitor who is tanking our country in a myriad of ways and violating the fuck out of our Constitution. A much more…severe punishment is in order.

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    “unprecedented,” “deeply concerned,” “alarmed,” — words have lost all meaning due to be in every other fucking headline