cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29441415

Ukraine and European leaders agreed on Saturday to an unconditional 30-day ceasefire from 12 May with the backing of US president Donald Trump, threatening president Vladimir Putin with new “massive” sanctions if he failed to comply.

The announcement was made by the leaders of Britain, France, Germany, Poland and Ukraine after a meeting in Kyiv, during which they held a phone call with Trump.

  • charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    It’s pretty simple to end the war. Russia needs to get the fuck out and go home and stay there until the end of eternity or else Ukraine can continue to destroy your pathetic country. Or whatever Ukraine wants. I’m not in country under constant attacks.

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      11 hours ago

      In the same cohort of simplicity Russia wouldn’t have started the war in the first place, and Putin with his relatives wouldn’t be anywhere near power.

      Ukraine is doing pretty well, I’ve read it has like 6 FPVs against one (really combat-deployed, not total amount of involved) Russian combatant. Russia has learned the new approaches too, but its hierarchical structure is slowing it down, if Russian military development were as fast as Russian civilian development (Ozon, Wildberries, all those delivery services and aggregators), then Ukraine would have lost already, but all the thieves and acquaintances just can’t allow it. While in Ukraine, despite still atrocious levels of corruption, such development does happen.

      I think that’s why Putin is basically trying to surrender without losing whatever status he imagined for himself. Because right now the militaries are similar, but long-term Ukraine is going to become stronger faster.

      TBH I’ve read some fantastic things. Not sure these achievements were worth losing so many people first, but Ukraine has at least came there, while Russian regime prefers surrender to change.

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        Russian civilian development (Ozon, Wildberries, all those delivery services and aggregators)

        Ugh, about that. Russians had these automated post cells appearing recently (where you come up with your phone and with few taps in an app a little door opens, so you can pick up your package) and some lady posted on socials “see, that’s progress, can you see such technologies in Ukraine?”.

        That post went viral in Ukraine, because we’ve had these for almost a decade now.

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          9 hours ago

          TIL.

          Anyway, I meant the general logistics, but now that you said this, it’d be common sense for Ukraine to have it all earlier, because of how populace is distributed.

          Russia has a few humongous centers of population and everyone trying to get closer to them from remote areas. Ukraine compared to Russia isn’t all that centralized.

          About automated post cells - frankly I haven’t been paying attention. But there was a short period around 2013, I think, when you could pay with BTC in some places.

          But it’s Moscow close enough to center, so - not very relevant experience.