• nexguy@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Which ones? Which ones don’t damage their land or steal children from enemies or rape or steal? Please don’t try to say any indigenous tribes because they are all guilty of one or more these.

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        11 hours ago

        Any indigenous tribe. But seriously it was not long ago that no professional fishermen anywhere would ever overfish.

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          9 hours ago

          Only because they weren’t capable of it lmao.

          There’s at least some evidence supporting human driven extinctions as far back as some of the earliest ‘modern’ (ie Homo sapien) hominid populations.

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          6 hours ago

          this is only true to the smallest of extents, there were plenty that had those behaviors, survivorship bias is not a good footing for an argument.

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            Survivorship bias is so important to remember when talking about human societies. Even our perceptions and knowledge of indigenous tribes is limited by survivorship bias. Consider that there may have been many more “peaceful” or “non-greedy” tribes, but they were conquered by groups of people that were more violent and selfish. There must be so many tribes that have been wiped away without a trace, tribes we know nothing about.

            But the real barrier to this hypothetical “non-greedy population” idea is the matter of scale. A peaceful village of 100 people is easier to create and maintain than a peaceful global population of 8+ billion. Even if indigenous villages managed to build such utopias where greed doesn’t exist, their models wouldn’t easily scale to the world we live in now.