You’re allowed to be racist or to openly support racist ideals in public. You aren’t allowed to intimidate someone based on their race. Intimidation isn’t protected speech any more than fraud is.
You can charged with assault for language that is used to threaten or harass someone, especially when directed at someone’s race, religion, gender, etc, which can elevate it to a hate crime.
Nope because shouting racist shit in public is a hate crime how can these things actually be hard to understand, what are your thought pattern to reach the goal that it should be okay to shout racism openly and why would it? Ever? It’s a hate crime because it leads to deaths for idiotic irrational reasons. What is so hard to understand, at what point did you confuse “openly” disliking pancakes or the president with openly fucking disliking everyone with other skin color??? like a idiotic shameful sad excuse for a person just openly hating a skin color??? Is that ever the same as openly opposing a war or something??? How is this confusing for you people
Bro if it was a hate crime to openly support racist ideals in public do you think the KKK and Nazis and whatever other hate groups would be able to march around in public espousing their horrendous views?
You are very much allowed to stand around with a Nazi flag and shout hateful shit into the air. It’s when you start directing it at individuals and saying things that could be construed as a threat or hate speech that it becomes a problem.
For the most part though you’re free to say and wear whatever you want for better or worse.
And listen, I wish it was a crime to openly support racist ideals in public but that’s just not the country we are.
Expressing them is acting on them. Americans are idiotic for thinking it is an “infringement” to prohibit and punish racists until they disappear and stay away from society. It is the fucking purpose of dissalowing hate crime in the first place.
There’s a bit of another layer to it. The n-word is used as a credible death threat in America. It is a word that has been used to dehumanize and declare a person can be killed and lynched without consequence --because that is the legacy of our country and that word. People calling people n-words historically have been able get away with actual murders–and they know it.
It’s the same way a Nazi saluting is someone demonstrating they don’t value human life and support genocide. But it is still outlawed in Germany and Austria because the action carries with it much deeper implications there.
Possibly, it needs another source of evidence though. In the video the man asks: " Did you chase him? Did you try to hit him?" The woman replies “Yes”, but it’s a compound question and easily argued she was saying yes to chasing to get back whatever the child took.
Threat of violence is a crime and in this case clearly racially motivated so would be a hate crime. But I think it’d be tough to prove in court with only the video evidence and something for the criminal court to discover, not the parents or the NAAPC.
I’d like to again state this woman is pure garbage and the people that gave her money are probably worse.
Assault doesn’t need physical contact. Just yelling at him threateningly and chasing is more than enough to qualify. If she hit him it would also be battery.
I agree, but imagine a situation without race involved. If my wife has something taken and chased a child to get it back, then got charged for assault, it’d be laughed out of court.
This could be classed as assault, depending on intention, I think the investigation is looking into her character to prove the intention. Obviously she has a shot character, but they may need subpoenas from judges etc to look at phone records for evidence. It all takes time. I’m sure she’s getting her just desserts eventually.
If your wife makes a habit of chasing and yelling at children, you should be careful. She could be charged and it is unlikely it would be laughed out of court.
“Free Speech” doesn’t mean words can’t be the mechanism by which another crime is committed.
If you ask someone to kill your wife, you aren’t arrested for speech, but for conspiracy to commit murder.
I agree, but what other crime was committed? I didn’t see anything.
To be totally fair, that’s only because you’re a moron who’s arguing about things you don’t understand. Moron.
You’re allowed to be racist or to openly support racist ideals in public. You aren’t allowed to intimidate someone based on their race. Intimidation isn’t protected speech any more than fraud is.
You can charged with assault for language that is used to threaten or harass someone, especially when directed at someone’s race, religion, gender, etc, which can elevate it to a hate crime.
Nope because shouting racist shit in public is a hate crime how can these things actually be hard to understand, what are your thought pattern to reach the goal that it should be okay to shout racism openly and why would it? Ever? It’s a hate crime because it leads to deaths for idiotic irrational reasons. What is so hard to understand, at what point did you confuse “openly” disliking pancakes or the president with openly fucking disliking everyone with other skin color??? like a idiotic shameful sad excuse for a person just openly hating a skin color??? Is that ever the same as openly opposing a war or something??? How is this confusing for you people
Learn some reading comprehension before attacking someone.
I’m specifically saying that using language to intimidate someone based on their race isn’t protected speech and can be considered a hate crime.
You are allowed to openly support racist ideals in public. Verbatim what you said. It is wrong. It is a hate crime
Bro if it was a hate crime to openly support racist ideals in public do you think the KKK and Nazis and whatever other hate groups would be able to march around in public espousing their horrendous views?
You are very much allowed to stand around with a Nazi flag and shout hateful shit into the air. It’s when you start directing it at individuals and saying things that could be construed as a threat or hate speech that it becomes a problem.
For the most part though you’re free to say and wear whatever you want for better or worse.
And listen, I wish it was a crime to openly support racist ideals in public but that’s just not the country we are.
“bro” do you think this is the law everywhere in the world and does it maybe seem like it would be a good idea to?
No I don’t think it’s the case everywhere in the world. I think in the context of this post clearly I am talking about the United States of America.
I never said I’m cool with people doing it and I’m not opposed to more restrictions on hate speech in general but I didn’t write our constitution.
It is not a crime to hold, or express, racist views.
It can be a crime to act on those views, harass someone with those views, etc.
Expressing them is acting on them. Americans are idiotic for thinking it is an “infringement” to prohibit and punish racists until they disappear and stay away from society. It is the fucking purpose of dissalowing hate crime in the first place.
Idiotic or not, it is the law.
There’s a bit of another layer to it. The n-word is used as a credible death threat in America. It is a word that has been used to dehumanize and declare a person can be killed and lynched without consequence --because that is the legacy of our country and that word. People calling people n-words historically have been able get away with actual murders–and they know it.
It’s the same way a Nazi saluting is someone demonstrating they don’t value human life and support genocide. But it is still outlawed in Germany and Austria because the action carries with it much deeper implications there.
Assault.
Possibly, it needs another source of evidence though. In the video the man asks: " Did you chase him? Did you try to hit him?" The woman replies “Yes”, but it’s a compound question and easily argued she was saying yes to chasing to get back whatever the child took.
Threat of violence is a crime and in this case clearly racially motivated so would be a hate crime. But I think it’d be tough to prove in court with only the video evidence and something for the criminal court to discover, not the parents or the NAAPC.
I’d like to again state this woman is pure garbage and the people that gave her money are probably worse.
Assault doesn’t need physical contact. Just yelling at him threateningly and chasing is more than enough to qualify. If she hit him it would also be battery.
I agree, but imagine a situation without race involved. If my wife has something taken and chased a child to get it back, then got charged for assault, it’d be laughed out of court.
This could be classed as assault, depending on intention, I think the investigation is looking into her character to prove the intention. Obviously she has a shot character, but they may need subpoenas from judges etc to look at phone records for evidence. It all takes time. I’m sure she’s getting her just desserts eventually.
If your wife makes a habit of chasing and yelling at children, you should be careful. She could be charged and it is unlikely it would be laughed out of court.
Man it’s like you picked 2% of what I said and felt that’s enough…
I counted, I think it’s 89 words and you’re response is as far as I can tell to one word: wife. So between 2-3%.
If you can’t understand subtext, I can’t help you.
I also heard the child may have had disabilities, which adds a whole new layer.
I don’t mean to be contrarian for the sake of it and I agree with people’s feelings. But the law works in both ways.