To be fair he may not actually be a rapist. He calls himself “defiler of daughters”, but he’s doing so in a theatrically rogueish list of reasons people would want to kill him, so it could just as well be consensual but the parents are furious about it.
However even if that is the case, he actually is also a self-described murderer and thief who implies that he runs a dangerous gang of some sort and regularly has people trying to kill him
If that’s all the rape stuff is based on, then it’s very much the opposite of a rapist. Just like you said, a rogue. A romantic one at that.
It’s an age old trope. Stealing the lord’s gold and gems and giving his daughter one while you’re at it, consentually, ofc.
Basically, like a reference to the Zorro stereotype.
Or a somewhat loose but direct reference to the Mask of Zorro, which wouldn’t have been too old of a movie at that point. The time difference between Oblivion’s release and the releases of Mask of Zorro was 8 years.
That’s the only reference, yeah. The character is only present for one scene in one quest, and the only mention of his sexual exploits is that line. I certainly always interpreted him as a womaniser rather than a rapist
It’s funny that you mention Zorro — the voice actor that does this character’s lines (and also other male khajiit) has done parts to fill in for Antonio Banderas before
Oblivion Khajiit always remind me of Antonio Banderas, and while I didn’t explore the world as thoroughly in Oblivion as I did in Morrowind and Skyrim, I may have encountered Vasha when playing.
Also btw “Vash” is a sort of pirate archaeologist from TNG. Unrelated morr and than Zorro, I’m sure, but still.
has done parts to fill in for Antonio Banderas before
Like… a voice-double? Elaborate pls, I’m interested.
He’s one of the three captives you can choose to kill at the start of the Dark Brotherhood questline
Elaborate pls,
The voice actor is André Sogliuzzo, who voiced Banderas’ Puss in Boots from Shrek in various appearances outside of the main films and also voiced the actual character of Antonio Banderas in an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch
The voice actor is André Sogliuzzo, who voiced Banderas’ Puss in Boots from Shrek in various appearances outside of the main films and also voiced the actual character of Antonio Banderas in an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch
Ah, yes, so I got it more or less right, a “voice-double”. Thank you for confirming.
He’s one of the three captives you can choose to kill at the start of the Dark Brotherhood questline
Yeah but man it’s been 20 years, and whilst Morrowind I played pretty religiously and then later Skyrim again, during Oblivion’s release and heydey, I was a fuckboi, so I didn’t pay as much attention. Also more than a decade of weed on me and just now an ambien.
Maybe it’s there, but I’m in not willing to say whether I’m imagining or remembering. The wiki states he’s wearing a mask as well though? Reference? Tbf it’s an executioner’s mask. Do they all wear them though? Also he’s the only one who doesn’t yell when the others die, perhaps implying a sort of rogues attitude of vigilante justice served?
Idk man. Just writing things on Lemmy while waiting for the ambien to kick in to be able to go to bed. I’m not debating anything, just making conversation.
Oh, I didn’t mean to come across as argumentative, I just offered a description in case it jogged a memory. It’s entirely possible you never did meet him. Though if it helps at all, he’s wearing an execution hood rather than an executioner’s hood — as in, he’s the one getting executed. You are correct that all three are wearing them and Vasha doesn’t give much of a shit about the whole situation, all things considered
execution hood rather than an executioner’s hood — as in, he’s the one getting executed
Oh yes I read that. I’m just unaware whether I did the quest. Can’t recall. Did the other prisoners have holds? Because if not, and he’s the only masked guy, and a womaniser, I’d say he might as well be Zorro.
I don’t think raping is required to live…
To be fair he may not actually be a rapist. He calls himself “defiler of daughters”, but he’s doing so in a theatrically rogueish list of reasons people would want to kill him, so it could just as well be consensual but the parents are furious about it.
However even if that is the case, he actually is also a self-described murderer and thief who implies that he runs a dangerous gang of some sort and regularly has people trying to kill him
If that’s all the rape stuff is based on, then it’s very much the opposite of a rapist. Just like you said, a rogue. A romantic one at that.
It’s an age old trope. Stealing the lord’s gold and gems and giving his daughter one while you’re at it, consentually, ofc.
Basically, like a reference to the Zorro stereotype.
Or a somewhat loose but direct reference to the Mask of Zorro, which wouldn’t have been too old of a movie at that point. The time difference between Oblivion’s release and the releases of Mask of Zorro was 8 years.
The Mask of Zorro 4K UHD - Zorro vs Elena Duel | High-Def Digest
So when Oblivion developers would’ve been working on it a few years earlier, it would have only been 5-6 years old.
Avengers Endgame came out six years ago.
Also Vasha is actually wearing a literal.
That’s the only reference, yeah. The character is only present for one scene in one quest, and the only mention of his sexual exploits is that line. I certainly always interpreted him as a womaniser rather than a rapist
It’s funny that you mention Zorro — the voice actor that does this character’s lines (and also other male khajiit) has done parts to fill in for Antonio Banderas before
Oblivion Khajiit always remind me of Antonio Banderas, and while I didn’t explore the world as thoroughly in Oblivion as I did in Morrowind and Skyrim, I may have encountered Vasha when playing.
Also btw “Vash” is a sort of pirate archaeologist from TNG. Unrelated morr and than Zorro, I’m sure, but still.
Like… a voice-double? Elaborate pls, I’m interested.
He’s one of the three captives you can choose to kill at the start of the Dark Brotherhood questline
The voice actor is André Sogliuzzo, who voiced Banderas’ Puss in Boots from Shrek in various appearances outside of the main films and also voiced the actual character of Antonio Banderas in an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch
Ah, yes, so I got it more or less right, a “voice-double”. Thank you for confirming.
Yeah but man it’s been 20 years, and whilst Morrowind I played pretty religiously and then later Skyrim again, during Oblivion’s release and heydey, I was a fuckboi, so I didn’t pay as much attention. Also more than a decade of weed on me and just now an ambien.
Maybe it’s there, but I’m in not willing to say whether I’m imagining or remembering. The wiki states he’s wearing a mask as well though? Reference? Tbf it’s an executioner’s mask. Do they all wear them though? Also he’s the only one who doesn’t yell when the others die, perhaps implying a sort of rogues attitude of vigilante justice served?
Idk man. Just writing things on Lemmy while waiting for the ambien to kick in to be able to go to bed. I’m not debating anything, just making conversation.
Oh, I didn’t mean to come across as argumentative, I just offered a description in case it jogged a memory. It’s entirely possible you never did meet him. Though if it helps at all, he’s wearing an execution hood rather than an executioner’s hood — as in, he’s the one getting executed. You are correct that all three are wearing them and Vasha doesn’t give much of a shit about the whole situation, all things considered
You didn’t — at all.
I was just clarifying I hope was neither.
Oh yes I read that. I’m just unaware whether I did the quest. Can’t recall. Did the other prisoners have holds? Because if not, and he’s the only masked guy, and a womaniser, I’d say he might as well be Zorro.