Ehhhh, it was always just an excuse, just like all the other reasons that they invented. Nazis, NATO, will of the people, whatever bullshit he came up with, the real reason was always because there’s was money to be made by owning their land.
I know, it’s just so fun to engage on that level because the logic is truly incomprehensible. Like pretend the US or NATO actually wanted to invade Russia or whatever they’re trying to imply by saying that shit. They’re feeling a million times better about it now than 10 years ago since Russia has been revealed as a paper tiger, with soviet vehicle and ammo stocks depleted and nearly a million casualties for a chunk of land, not to mention the fact that they got counter-invaded and it took 7 MONTHS to recapture their own fucking land. I really want to hammer this home. They couldn’t defend their own territory from an incursion of an estimated 10-12,000 Ukrainians for SEVEN. MONTHS. An actual superpower would bowl through to Moscow faster than the vatniks thought they would take Kiev.
In our pretend land where someone actually wants to invade Russia for some reason, they’re gong to identify the fact that they could break the entire Russian offensive (probably the entire military) with a single carrier group, and do that.
Yes, Putin squandered away a lot of his power with this war and the inability to adjust the plan after it failed (the historic traffic jam north of Kiev). But the issue always was, is, and will be: the wildcards. They got nukes. They might not work well, but who knows. It makes it technically impossible for any nation to ever “break the entire russian offensive” without some serious gambling.
Xi gets pissed whenever Putin threatens with nuke and tells Putin to stop with the bluff. That being said, it is a sign that Russia’s actual influence is eroding because of the war, and that Russia’s sovereignty is slowly being captured by China.
I wonder if they did the math on the cost of this war vs the benefits of the money to be made? Is it still worth it as this point? Sunk cost fallacy at this point?
Even historians in 1000 years will not comprehend this brilliant move by mr. president, in eyes of those uninitiated to the complex art of geopolitics it may seem like the dumbest blunder.
You’re an even better western propagandist than you must think I am. You say the west basically forced putin’s hand in getting vast quantities of soldiers and soviet vehicles blown up in disorganized pushes, thus making Russia infinitely more vulnerable than it was prior to 2022? Not to mention…
western fomented coup
Support for joining the EU was already high. Yanukovych won the 2010 election promising closer economic ties to the EU. His sudden refusal to sign a trade agreement resulted in protests. Violent crackdown on protests resulted in revolution. For you to believe the west caused this, you would have to believe they psyop’d 70+% of the Ukrainian population into leaning towards the EU, then somehow convinced the Russian puppet to lie to get elected, then set off the aforementioned events.
>Be Putin
>Invade Ukraine to prevent NATO expansion.
>2 more countries join NATO.
>MFW
Ehhhh, it was always just an excuse, just like all the other reasons that they invented. Nazis, NATO, will of the people, whatever bullshit he came up with, the real reason was always because there’s was money to be made by owning their land.
I know, it’s just so fun to engage on that level because the logic is truly incomprehensible. Like pretend the US or NATO actually wanted to invade Russia or whatever they’re trying to imply by saying that shit. They’re feeling a million times better about it now than 10 years ago since Russia has been revealed as a paper tiger, with soviet vehicle and ammo stocks depleted and nearly a million casualties for a chunk of land, not to mention the fact that they got counter-invaded and it took 7 MONTHS to recapture their own fucking land. I really want to hammer this home. They couldn’t defend their own territory from an incursion of an estimated 10-12,000 Ukrainians for SEVEN. MONTHS. An actual superpower would bowl through to Moscow faster than the vatniks thought they would take Kiev.
In our pretend land where someone actually wants to invade Russia for some reason, they’re gong to identify the fact that they could break the entire Russian offensive (probably the entire military) with a single carrier group, and do that.
Yes, Putin squandered away a lot of his power with this war and the inability to adjust the plan after it failed (the historic traffic jam north of Kiev). But the issue always was, is, and will be: the wildcards. They got nukes. They might not work well, but who knows. It makes it technically impossible for any nation to ever “break the entire russian offensive” without some serious gambling.
Xi gets pissed whenever Putin threatens with nuke and tells Putin to stop with the bluff. That being said, it is a sign that Russia’s actual influence is eroding because of the war, and that Russia’s sovereignty is slowly being captured by China.
I wonder if they did the math on the cost of this war vs the benefits of the money to be made? Is it still worth it as this point? Sunk cost fallacy at this point?
If they did, they are shit awful at math.
I think putin just got senile and wanted to restore the glory of the soviet union tbh. People get really weird when they get old.
Nah, he took up a new hobby during lockdown, most people did sourdough or a language, he did an invasion
It was a calculated risk, but
3.5 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.
3.6 even
Even historians in 1000 years will not comprehend this brilliant move by mr. president, in eyes of those uninitiated to the complex art of geopolitics it may seem like the dumbest blunder.
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I wonder if there was any event that make them worried about being invaded.
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You’re an even better western propagandist than you must think I am. You say the west basically forced putin’s hand in getting vast quantities of soldiers and soviet vehicles blown up in disorganized pushes, thus making Russia infinitely more vulnerable than it was prior to 2022? Not to mention…
Support for joining the EU was already high. Yanukovych won the 2010 election promising closer economic ties to the EU. His sudden refusal to sign a trade agreement resulted in protests. Violent crackdown on protests resulted in revolution. For you to believe the west caused this, you would have to believe they psyop’d 70+% of the Ukrainian population into leaning towards the EU, then somehow convinced the Russian puppet to lie to get elected, then set off the aforementioned events.
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