• TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee
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        18 hours ago

        I mean, have you tried any of the cheese alternatives? /s

        I am excited for any and all improvements.

        • zer0@lemmy.ml
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          11 hours ago

          I mean the fact that they ARE so terrible convinces me actually that there is so much room for improvements.

          I’m always wondering: what if dairy+ meat never had gotten to be defined as western staples? Where would other sources of food be now in development ? A prime example is tofu in the Asian cultures: while diminished as “sub” in western culture, its a staple there.

        • Plum@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          Daiya American slices on nachos or a burger is perfectly acceptable. It’s just super weird when it’s cold. And I’ve given up entirely trying to find a blue cheese substitute.

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            18 hours ago

            There are three vegan blue cheeses that i know about, currently available in europe that i can recommend: French brand Jay & Joy “Jeanne” French brand Petit veganne “Petit Azur bio” German brand Veganz “Bluebert”

          • Nimrod@lemm.ee
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            13 hours ago

            This is surprising to me. The “follow your heart” blue cheese fits the bill perfectly for me.

            I would kill for a mozz that got anywhere close to actual cheese.

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            15 hours ago

            I’ve been pleasantly surprised by vegan blue cheese dressings, but blue cheese itself…yeah, it’s got a long ways to go.

          • TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee
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            18 hours ago

            I’ve found tofutti slices to be a little better for those dishes and my new bar for acceptable. Dayia is better now that they use oat milk but it still tastes wrong to me. All the other brands are really quite bad.

    • Anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      18 hours ago

      Fermented vegan cheeses have all the same tastes cause it’s the same process I’d recommend to try modern ones they’re really great nowadays. Depends of the country of course.

      • Leon@pawb.social
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        17 hours ago

        I’ve always wondered over why fermented tofu etc. isn’t popular here. It’s super hard to source but it fucks so hard.

          • Landfill@lemmy.ml
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            10 hours ago

            Nah, tofu is just coagulated protein. Basically make soy milk and condense the protein, takes a couple hours tops at home for a brick. Tempeh on the other hand…