Thousands of children in Gaza have been admitted to hospitals for malnutrition, but even as they waste away, doctors’ options for treating them have been depleted.
I mean what do you define as fighting? Cause the most I’ve seen is protests and I don’t really count just going outside for a couple of hours on the weekend to wave a sign around and chant as fighting.
sure ignore all the judges, fed workers and doctors being threatened with losing their livelihoods and jail, possibly violence
They aren’t fighting, they are barely resisting by doing their job.
ignore the massive amounts of non violent protests
Massive? You’re impressed with the size of protests in the face of what’s happening?
all the quiet behind the scenes work on trying to preserve everything we can
There’s a difference between dismissing all efforts by all individuals and stating a starling fact: we are collectively not doing enough.
but sure get right out there and give them a reason to declare martial law
Wait wait wait this took me back a bit, I wasn’t ready to respond to this point. You’re either completely brainwashed by neo-liberals or you just have not thought your contradicting views through fully.
What’s the point of protest? Have you ever marched in an organized peaceful protest in designated areas and paths where police literally setup caution tape and mobile barriers to direct your protest from point a to point b?
How did that feel? Did you feel like you accomplished much? Did the few onlookers that actually walked by your “protest” path seen engaged and informed?
Protests that don’t bother anyone are just state sponsored venting sessions. If the Nazis are in power, and they aren’t imposing marshall law because of your protests, you’re not protesting.
When the Biden regime saw actual massive protests of his genocide, they called students terrorists and started making laws to squash it. Just a few days a go a bill was passed to make it illegal to criticize Israel on Campus by conflating anti genocide protests with antisemitism.
There’s your fascism, 320-91 bipartisan fascism! Protest, massively and un"peacefully" before you can’t.
I think doing all of those things is good but none of them really constitutes the people actually fighting back.
The first point focuses more on people in government using the amount of power they can to oppose this stuff which is good but isn’t really the people fighting back against this.
The massive amounts of protests aren’t going to do anything by themselves as Trump can continue to ignore them and keep blazing ahead as he’s already doing so. Especially considering the major force behind this, 50501, is having some pretty major internal problems right now the last time I looked that will probably splinter and hamper their ability to keep doing events.
In terms of violence I do generally support non-violent action, I just think it needs to be directed in ways that actually accomplish something rather then just allowing people to feel like they did something by going out to a protest for a couple hours. We need people to join organizations and actually start organizing and building community with people. That way people can begin to work towards creating whatever protections they can at the local level whether that be through local legislation or through organizing groups to protect people in the community directly from attacks. Protests can work towards this but we seriously need to hammer it into people that just showing up to a protest isn’t enough by itself and we need more protests that aren’t just nebulously targeted at Trump but have specific goals and demands.
If there’s fighting then I’m sure as hell not seeing it.
look harder
I mean what do you define as fighting? Cause the most I’ve seen is protests and I don’t really count just going outside for a couple of hours on the weekend to wave a sign around and chant as fighting.
sure ignore all the judges, fed workers and doctors being threatened with losing their livelihoods and jail, possibly violence
ignore the massive amounts of non violent protests
all the quiet behind the scenes work on trying to preserve everything we can
but sure get right out there and give them a reason to declare martial law
here actual violence for you
https://lemmy.cafe/post/16567999
They aren’t fighting, they are barely resisting by doing their job.
Massive? You’re impressed with the size of protests in the face of what’s happening?
There’s a difference between dismissing all efforts by all individuals and stating a starling fact: we are collectively not doing enough.
Wait wait wait this took me back a bit, I wasn’t ready to respond to this point. You’re either completely brainwashed by neo-liberals or you just have not thought your contradicting views through fully.
What’s the point of protest? Have you ever marched in an organized peaceful protest in designated areas and paths where police literally setup caution tape and mobile barriers to direct your protest from point a to point b?
How did that feel? Did you feel like you accomplished much? Did the few onlookers that actually walked by your “protest” path seen engaged and informed?
Protests that don’t bother anyone are just state sponsored venting sessions. If the Nazis are in power, and they aren’t imposing marshall law because of your protests, you’re not protesting.
When the Biden regime saw actual massive protests of his genocide, they called students terrorists and started making laws to squash it. Just a few days a go a bill was passed to make it illegal to criticize Israel on Campus by conflating anti genocide protests with antisemitism.
There’s your fascism, 320-91 bipartisan fascism! Protest, massively and un"peacefully" before you can’t.
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I think doing all of those things is good but none of them really constitutes the people actually fighting back.
The first point focuses more on people in government using the amount of power they can to oppose this stuff which is good but isn’t really the people fighting back against this.
The massive amounts of protests aren’t going to do anything by themselves as Trump can continue to ignore them and keep blazing ahead as he’s already doing so. Especially considering the major force behind this, 50501, is having some pretty major internal problems right now the last time I looked that will probably splinter and hamper their ability to keep doing events.
In terms of violence I do generally support non-violent action, I just think it needs to be directed in ways that actually accomplish something rather then just allowing people to feel like they did something by going out to a protest for a couple hours. We need people to join organizations and actually start organizing and building community with people. That way people can begin to work towards creating whatever protections they can at the local level whether that be through local legislation or through organizing groups to protect people in the community directly from attacks. Protests can work towards this but we seriously need to hammer it into people that just showing up to a protest isn’t enough by itself and we need more protests that aren’t just nebulously targeted at Trump but have specific goals and demands.
lol alright hand wave all that