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Too cynical or too cyclical?
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I don’t recall us using violence last time. In fact, they did when they stormed the Capitol like ignorant babies. Everyone else just watched, as usual.
The meme is referring to WW2, not Jan 6th. The reaction to Jan 6th is just more of the bottom part of the meme.
What compelled the Capitol stormers to stop storming, if not opposing violence?
They got bored. They started the attack around noon, they violently assaulted the capitol for hours, and then over 4 hours later Trump told them to go home. We had people not wanting to call in the national guard because of optics. We had a hero go out of his way to save the lives of rioters.
It’s also important to note that Mr. Testicle Chin wasn’t genocidal. He just wanted to wipe out half of all sentient life.
An asshole? Sure. Just as bad? Maybe. But his goal wasn’t to kill everyone of a specific culture or erase a culture.
He’s not Israel trying to wipe out Palestinians, or a china the Uyghurs or Canada the natives… as fucked up and evil as he is, he’s actually trying to save them- from overpopulation.
Nooooo - saving from overpopulation = genocidal fascist red flag.
No question he was a total asshole, and a mass murder of incomprehensible scale.
But his actions were not genuinely genocidal.
Again, he didn’t wipe out entire civilizations- only half the population of every planet/whatever in the universe, and he did so entirely at random. (With every being having a 50% chance to live.)
He wasn’t trying to wipe out any specific culture or ideology or people, and I’m pretty sure that his methods were functionally designed to avoid doing so.
When the Avengers go back to the past and Past Thanos learns that Future Thanos succeeded but still failed, Past Thanos says clearly that means he didn’t genocide hard enough, erasing half of all life was too kind, and he really needs to erase all life and start from scratch - which does sound very familiar. Sorry, I vote full genocidal, even if not specific to one or some cultures.
go back to the past and Past Thanos learns that Future Thanos succeeded but still failed, Past Thanos says clearly that means he didn’t genocide hard enough,
Past Thanos is now a fundamentally different person than “future” Thanos. Depending on what kind of handwaveian pseudo logic you care to subscribe to, either “future thanos” no longer exists, they’ve just created a new shittier universe, in which past-thanos does different things; Past Thanos enver does shitty things and really learned his lesson, so they never go back and never tell past thanos and so past thanos becomes the original first thanos… and… fuck… or they created two thanos that exist in the same universe but functionally separate. Like Will Ryker and Tom Ryker.
If you think that’s a headache, yes it is. but, yeah. Past Thanos is fundamentally altered by the time traveller’s interactions, and is therefore a different person that “future” thanos.
In any case, that’s still- technically not genocide which, per Merriam Webster:
: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
Lacking the intent to destroy a group of people based on race, or their cultural group or similar, means while still just as bad and evil, it is not, in fact, genocide. It’s not my fault the world failed to remember the world is full of pendants who like to believe words have meaning.
Do we go with “quasi-omnicide” then? That sounds rightish
Peaceful protest and violent resistance often work in conjunction.
