Letting Religion run things is how you get the dark ages again. They were called dark for a reason.
They’re called dark ages because there’s not much record about it.
Because only the church was allowed to write history.
No, the same goes for archeologic findings.
It’s believed that some king shifted years to extend his reign on paper or get a favourable century.
That is a conspiracy theory that can easily be disproven if you look literally anywhere outside of Western Europe. Muhammad started Islam and composed the Qu’ran at the beginning of that time period, and the Islamic calendar begins in 622 AD. According to the Phantom Time theory, basically none of early Islamic history actually existed and it’s a fabrication by… The Pope?! It’s an absurd premise. The Abbasid Caliphate was founded in 750 and still existed in 911, with all sorts of written and archeological evidence in favor, and let’s not forget about the other Roman Empire that existed in that time frame and have their own historical and archeological evidence, including about events that overlapped with Western histories such as Irene of Athens being pressured to marry Charlemagne. Again, it stretches credulity that the Byzantine Emperors and Eastern Church or any Muslims whatsoever would be swayed to fabricate so much of their own history by the Pope. This theory is absurd at best and racist at worst because in erasing so much Western European history it just kind of assumes literally nothing was happening anywhere else in the world either.
Thanks for the correction. I shouldve been more dilligent.
Kings aren’t good either, especially when they think they are a genius.
What does that have to do with anything?
It just means it might not be 2025 but way earlier right now.
Trump thinks he’s a genius king. He’s fired anyone that can stop him. They are replacing entire government departments with AI. He’s just got sick of Elon’s shit and took it over himself. This is where it gets really bumpy.
As a European watching the news, sometimes I have to remind myself that lots of other countries also go to shit from time to time, it just doesn’t get reported on as much. We get a massively disproportionate amount of reporting from the US as a result of how the English-speaking internet works.
In fact even writing this I just noticed the sidebar’s description of the community I’m posting in, guess I should probably just block it (no offence).
Ain’t no hate like christofacist love…
I hope no one kills these people for their obvious crimes.
My wife yells “purge night” a lot while watching the news.
Christofacisism
Religion is a belief. School curriculum is made based on facts and experiments over time. They should not be combined.
Religion is made up fairytales that adults still believe in.
Honesty a guy praying to Jebus is no different than a guy shooting hadoukens from his wrists.
Yet one is called spiritual while the other is called childish…
It’s funny that they clearly aren’t considering that religions other than theirs also exist. That’s the whole point of the Separation of Church and State. Your arbitrary religious views have no place in government or governance or public spaces… because others have other beliefs, many of which likely stand in stark contrast to yours, and the permutations are endless. Leaving your religious biases out of public life allows us all to coexist.
But lets ignore that and see what happens. Looking forward to The Satanic Temple having a presence in all public schools. Maybe muslims can get the Five Pillars and Buddhists can get the Noble Truths… and we’re just getting started.
They’re not ignoring it, they’re fully aware, and it’s the whole point. They want an official state religion to suppress all others. They’ve been perfectly willing and able to blatantly ignore facts, evidence, and existing law and jurisprudence to benefit one religion over all others.
Oh goody! We are one step closer to sharia law!
This part is both mind blowing and hilarious. Not too long ago they were screeching that “they are trying to make everything sharia law!”
Then they do this, with absolutely no sense of irony. The dumb runs so deep that its turning to magma.
The same idiots cheering this on would gaslight me and try to tell me there is “no such thing as xtian Shariah Law” when I’d point out that the talibangelicals very much want xtian Shariah Law here and have been pushing for it for as long as I’ve been alive.
I know better. Just because (of course) they don’t call it Shariah Law doesn’t mean it isn’t the exact same fucking thing.
The only reason they hate conservative Muslims so much is that game recognizes game, and let’s face it, if you change up a bit of doctrine, Muslim extremists want almost the exact same things as xtian extremists, and the xtianists have FATWA ENVY like you would not believe. They are very pissed off that more of their flock are not murderous thugs, too.
I wasnt going to have kids and the world keeps enforcing my decisions. If I had to deal with religion aimed at my kid I’d actually lose it 💀
I hope the Satanic temple will be opening a charter school in Oklahoma soon.
It would be probably better than most of the other offerings in Oklahoma. Funnily enough, OKCPS had(has?) an illegal provision in its dress code that bans “satanic” imagery.
Yeah, the idea isn’t that church and state are matter/antimatter, but that the state shouldn’t be used to direct people towards or away from any religion.
If the government establishes fair criteria for “school eligible for federal funding” then there’s no reason those schools must be secular or of any particular religion.
Wait until some MAGAt groks that their tax dollars might go to a (((school))) or end up helping Muslims in some way.
TBF, this regime doesn’t actually support any form of real education.
Honestly, they might save at least some of the youth doing it.
Hellenism school: EVERYTHING IS GAY AND NOW LETS THINK AND PARTY
Be gay
Make art
Do math
Stab Persians with really long sticks
😳
Be gay do drugs hail Satan
AVE SATANAS!
HAIL SATAN!
How far we’ve fallen.
We kept the pedophilia and lost the fun bits. THANKS JESUS
Idiocracy was right about the future, but it looks to be isolated to the US.
you clearly didn’t see the results of the UK’s local elections today if you believe this.
Don’t worry. If Labour shifts even harder to the right the voters will come back.
Right?
He continued: “You can’t treat religious people and religious institutions and religious speech as second-class in the United States… And when you have a program that’s open to all comers except religion… that seems like rank discrimination against religion.”
No, you stupid cunt. Religious institutions are special snowflakes that enjoy tax-exempt status and steal billions of dollars from this country by existing. Now you want to give them billions more on top of it. Fuck you Brett Kavanaugh you treasonous piece of shit.
If you didn’t vote Harris, you voted for this.
Upvoting to counter the spineless cowards who enabled Nazi America.
“B-b-but, muh Marxist dialectic materialism requires that I vote ideologically and totally disregard all dissident opinions”
There have been no new Supreme Court nominees since the election, so even if Harris had won, it would not have changed this.
Hey we don’t know, maybe Harris would’ve expanded the Supreme Court!
Ok maybe we know.
Actually no. Refusing to vote for a genocidal candidate, regardless of which side of the aisle or gender they are, is always a good choice. We are not free until we are all free. I demand my politicians not just be the lesser of two evils. I hope you can too. Cuz the drive to vote for a democratic candidate cuz they are not as evil is what got us here in the first place.
Honestly at this point I consider those who peddle this narrative either bots or literally worse than those who are captured by the cult of MAGA — because they have “reasoned” that giving MAGA free reign makes them morally superior to those who voted for the Democrats. But I have to ask:
Do you basically just… Not believe in harm reduction?
Because the argument seems to hinge on the idea that you’d refuse to engage in behaviors that reduce TOTAL harm because there would still BE harm.
I agree that none of us are truly free until we all are, but I fail to see how outright christofascism AND genocide are the preferable outcome for you here. How exactly does sending people to El Salvadorian work camps and secreting away protesters improve our foothold on this issue, exactly?
If your idea is that, if gets bad enough, people will have enough anger to fuel your dreams of an uprising of some kind… At the end of the day you’re STILL using human suffering as a bargaining chip while patting yourself on the back for being exactly the kind of non-resistance that MAGA relies on to gain power and momentum.
Tl;Dr: I really fucking hope you’re an account made for astroturfing and not a real person because “dogshit take” is too soft a descriptor for this line of thinking.
how’s that working out for you?
sometimes being an adult means doing distasteful things… both candidates supported genocide… 1 of the candidates also wasn’t racist, economically literate, determined to exterminate the poor, and destroy what little democracy you had
get the fuck over it… you have 2 bad choices and your lack of choice contributed to this
If you voted for Harris you voted for genocide. People who abstained did not.
Harris stated multiple times that she wanted a cease fire and a two state solution. Polar opposite of Trumps “sweep them out and take over.”
Every month from becoming the nominee until the election: cease fire, hostage release, two state solution.
August: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html
Actions and words are two different things.
Biden never pressured Israel for ceasefire, as Israeli officials boast of exploiting US support
If you didn’t vote for Harris, you accepted that allowing genocide and converting Gaza into a Trump resort was preferable to voting for slightly less genocide. The genocide has only gotten worse because Harris lost. Clownshow ethics.
If you pull the lever, the trolley will run over people.
If you don’t pull the lever, it will run them over faster because its itinerary includes running over everyone else on the planet BUT as everyone is run over, one after another, you can show them your hands. They will marvel at how clean they are and you will say it’s because you had the courage to not touch the lever. Your unwavering sense of justice will inspire them and they will die happy, knowing they once spoke to such a hero.
Tell your party to make a track without genocide next time.
Well yeah, that’s exactly the idea. Choose the best of bad options, and try to improve things so that the next time there’s better options.
Not choosing either usually leads to the worse option, which makes it harder to improve things.
There are no easy options.
This is how making demands works. Hope the Democratic party learned that they will not get votes like this next time.
Independent. I still voted blue because they promised less genocide and I knew not doing so guaranteed as much of it as possible.
But now that I see how clean your hands are compared to mine, I am ashamed. I mean, yes a lot more people are now dying as a result, but can you really put a price on cleanliness?
They did not promise less genocide. But you still voted for them.
Looks like the genocide is going stronger than ever. Congratulations.
You bit hard into the propaganda campaign for this.
You had two choices, bad or worse.
You chose neither and allowed worse to win.
Get down off your high horse, this does not make you morally superior, it makes you an idiot.
These people don’t realize (or well, maybe they do and are lying, I can’t read their minds) that asking people to not meaningfully participate in voting is like asking people to not participate in capitalism.
The argument that there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism — something all leftists agree on and understand they still need to buy food, clothes, electronics etc. despite them being unethically sourced — is the same as the argument that there’s no ethical voting in FPTP (and capitalism). It’s literally the same argument, just centered on voting.
So these people end up doing a kind of unironic “you say you’re a leftist yet you own an iPhone” but for voting — while probably typing all that from an iPhone.
To be fair, some of them are members of the Church of Accelerationism and believe that making life worse for people and offering up vulnerable populations as sacrifice will magically lead to the world getting transformed into a better place, despite no historical data backing such an idea. So, they want Nazis to win, despite claiming to be leftists who care about fellow human beings.
Yeah, there’s a lot of that going around. As if capitalism will collapse precisely into fully automated luxury space communism as opposed to straight-up Mad Max (i.e. the manifestation of America’s collective id).
I do not care. Tell Democrats to stop doing genocide instead of telling people to vote for it.
When you can’t buy anything in the stores you will definitely care.
When you’re starving to death in your own house you won’t be thinking about genocide anymore.
Stop burying your head in the sand.
Basically what you just said is it’s bad that democrats do genocide but when republicans do it then it’s fine.
Basically you said you do not care about genocide unless it happens to you.
No but you’ve abundantly made it clear that you think by letting Trump into office that the genocide issue magically goes away. Your logic sucks.
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You think Kamala does not it go away but you do not care.
Ah so you think you are innocent because you didn’t vote.
No. That makes you complacent. You let Trump win by not voting which is the same as voting for Trump.
People like you are why Trump is president.
What a brain dead take. Not only do you STILL have genocide, you also have a president who is going to destroy this country. All because you couldn’t lift your lazy fat ass off the couch.
If you didn’t, then you got us genocide+™.
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You and those who took your route are virtue signaling morons. But at least you can look down your nose at the rest of us while our democracy crumbles and our rights are stripped away.
the genocide was also part of the tRump package, worse actually
No, I didn’t vote for either. It was pretty easy to vote against Harris, while also voting against this. Maybe next time the Dems should run a candidate that at least pretends to care about what the voters want. That tends to help in elections.
Maybe next time the Dems should run a candidate that at least pretends to care about what the voters want. That tends to help in elections.
All of this I agree with. Unfortunately it won’t happen until all the neolibs are run out of the party.
But trying to pretend like you didn’t directly elect a dictator by “abstaining” is not only absurd, but ethically reprehensible. Much of life is about choosing between lesser evils and lesser pains. Letting the worst options win because a perfect one doesn’t (and cannot) exist makes you a deliberate, willing accomplice.
I would accept that in 2016. This time around you dipshits knew what the result of your apathy would be and did it anyway.
“Next time”.
Good luck with that. Chump.
So you’ll never say lesser evil again, right? Since there won’t be a next time?
If there is a next time, I will absolutely say to vote lesser evil again. Without a workable alternative, that is the option. I still see no workable alternative. Longshot third parties with ~1% polling are not a workable alternative. Vague revolution composed of ~1% of the population is not a workable alternative. When you have a plan, with reasonable chances of success, we can talk.
What’s your goal right now?
I would like you to say that you won’t vote lesser evil next time, since you believe the idea of a “next time” is laughable and are probably an honest person.
You’re going to have to connect the dots for me, I’m kind of stupid. Why would I do that?
Why not? It’s not like next time is going to happen, right?
Too young to vote huh?
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“You can’t treat religious people and religious institutions and religious speech as second-class in the United States”
If you’re teaching spiritual things then you’re not a top-class program. Stick to facts.
Facts are against their religion
