The US constitution is in peril. Civil and human rights are being trampled upon. The economy is in disarray.
At this rate, we will not make it through the second 100 days.
Federal judges in more than 120 cases so far have sought to stop Trump – judges appointed by Republicans as well as Democrats, some appointed by Trump himself – but the regime is either ignoring or appealing their orders. It has even arrested a municipal judge in Milwaukee amid a case involving an undocumented defendant.
Recently, Judge J Harvie Wilkinson III of the court of appeals for the fourth circuit – an eminent conservative Reagan appointee who is revered by the Federalist Society – issued a scathing rebuke to the Trump regime. In response to its assertion that it can abduct residents of the US and put them into foreign prisons without due process, Wilkinson wrote:
If today the Executive claims the right to deport without due process and in disregard of court orders, what assurance will there be tomorrow that it will not deport American citizens and then disclaim responsibility to bring them home? And what assurance shall there be that the Executive will not train its broad discretionary powers upon its political enemies? The threat, even if not the actuality, would always be present, and the Executive’s obligation to ‘take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed’ would lose its meaning.
I pretty much agree with the article, but I don’t see it explained what he means by “US won’t survive Trump’s next 100 days”?
I think what he really means is that democracy in USA won’t survive.
I can’t even begin to imagine how frustrating it must be to be a blue state like for instance California, and be forced through this political insanity? Also the personal frustration must be enormous for people who knew Trump would be a massive disaster.
We are cursed to live in interesting times. Could the frustrations for blue states like California become big enough for them to secede? I better go get some more popcorn!
The Trump administration has made a series of Executive Orders. State judges have deemed several of them unconstitutional and issued an injunction, legally pausing them until SCOTUS can rule them. In response, Trump has complained to SCOTUS that no single “activist judge” should be able to impede him like this. They will hear that case soon, and one of two things will happen:
SCOTUS rules in favor of the Executive branch, and judges can no longer block federal behavior, meaning the only way for unconstitutional actions taken by the federal govt to be heard by a court is for the affected individual to file a lawsuit in federal court.
SCOTUS rules in favor of the states, BUT trump legitimately believes he is allowed to commit crimes as president, so he’ll just continue ignoring everyone.
That’s the same thing. No democratic republic, no constitution, no USA. Trump might continue using the name, he might even come up with a new constitution and say that it’s the same one with a few improvements, but the US as we knew it would be dead and gone.
No.
Did for instance Hungary cease to exist when it became Communist?
Did it cease to exist again when it became democratic?
The answer to both is obviously no.
Same with USA, just because it becomes a totalitarian dictatorship is not the same as not surviving as a country.
When that happened to Germany it didn’t mean Germany ceased to exist as a country either.
For that you have to speculate that something more happens afterwards. Which isn’t mentioned in the article at all.
This isn’t going to be like Hungary or Germany, this is going to be like the USSR.
They were only meant as examples of a country can survive changing regime.
I agree it will probably be more like Soviet Union, and we may even see a repeat of that with the current Russian Federation collapsing too.
The entire concept of the US is heavily tied to its founding ideals of federalism, separation of powers, and rejection of a totalitarian monarchy. It’s why we have the name United States, and not a singular State of America. Versus something like Hungary which, from what I can find, is named for the native peoples of the area, didn’t have a written constitution for most of that time, and has gone through a handful of constitutions in recent history. It’s not an apt comparison.
Will the land of mass still exist there? Will there still be people there with some form of government? Yeah, obviously, we don’t disagree.
But would every single US citizen agree that, if we are no longer a democratic republic as determined by the founding constitution, then we are no longer the same country? Yes. There’s just not a world where US citizens say “yeah this is the opposite of what the founders were going for, but it’s still the same country”. The name United States wouldn’t even make sense anymore, because the states would no longer have autonomy.
If Trump established a dictatorship that wields the US military to oppress the will of the states, then for that duration it is no longer the United States, it’s whatever Trump calls it (he would probably call it the US, but it would be as accurate as North Korea calling itself a Democratic People’s Republic). If the states later overthrow that dictatorship and reinstate a form of rule that is based in the founding ideals, then the US would be refounded, and I could be convinced THAT is the same country re-established. But if the democracy is never re-established, and we stay under a form of totalitarian rule, then the US ceases to exist.
True, but way more similar to Germany which also became authoritarian and abandoned German democratic values under Hitler.
That’s not at all relevant, what’s relevant is if the federation will survive, if it does USA is technically intact, even if it breaks every traditional value of USA.
That’s a strange argument IMO, since this is the foundation of USA, and was the cause for the civil war. The power of the federal government precede the states.
Contrary to EU, where any nation can leave peacefully if they wish, which was demonstrated by UK leaving.
It seems like you don’t really accept what it means for a nation to “survive”. It definitely doesn’t means everything has to be well, and as it used to be.
This feels like we’re having a semantic argument. I would say, if Hitler still held power to this day, the country that Germany is would be different from the one it was. And if someone had stated in the 1930s that we were watching the death of our country, even in retrospect, i would agree with that statement. After all, he took total control and threw out the existing form of government. If you’re saying that it’s still the same country just became the new regime continued to use the same name for the same plot of land, I would not be convinced. Completely new form of government -> completely new country.
This is known as the “war of northern aggression” argument in the US south. The argument that the civil war had “nothing to do with slavery” and was “about states rights”. But I hope we all agree that that’s a BS argument. They wanted to continue enslaving humans in what was objectively a crime against humanity, and the other states who chose to wield the federal government’s resources to demand a stop to it were justified in doing so, both ethically and in service of the founding delcaration of the US: a nation where “all men are created equal”. But the federal government would not have been able to do that without support from the northern states. Conversely, today we find ourselves fast approaching a situation where the federal government will have total control over the states, regardless of what they or their “activist judges” want.
Now I agree that a peaceful, democratic secession of a state should not necessarily be precluded by the US federal government, but 1) I understand why that’s not how it currently works, and 2) that’s not the situation we find ourselves in.
I hope we can agree that “different” and “not surviving” is not the same thing!
No it’s not, according to the rules of the federation, no state is allowed to secede according to the constitution!!
You seem to be arguing from a personal opinion of what USA should be rather than reality of what it really is.
Yes that’s true, and it’s not supposed to be like that, but in reality it always was a risk by the way the federation clearly always can trump the states. This is VERY different from EU, which is built with way way higher without comparison better protection of the member states.
Hah, it’s now a discussion of literal existentialism. No, I would say one could reasonably believe that “different” and “not surviving” are symonomous. The form that something existed in did not survive, and now only the new, different form exists. Ship of Theseus. If you replace every part of the old country one-by-one, once every part is replaced is it the same country or a different one? In this case, I think it’s not useful to try to claim it’s the same country.
Again, that’s not what justified the civil war. Again, I agree that a peaceful democratic secession should be allowed, but again that’s neither here nor there. Because here is a federal government ignoring the states’ checks/balances, and there is a crime against humanity that was justified in being stopped by the other states, not a federal government acting outside of the states’ checks/balances.
I am arguing based on the founding doctrine of the US and the concept of Federalism.
The assumption you’re making is that the federal govt was designed to have autonomy of its own separate from the states. But the federal govt was intended to only be a democratic-republically determined representation of the states’ intentions. Trump has the same misunderstanding, which is why he’s using the “activist judges” rhetoric. But by design of the US constitution, the states are intended to have checks on the power of the federal govt. Regardless of how any 2A nut interprets the 2nd Amendment, that is the actual intended purpose: to prevent a federally organized military from staging a coup. The federation was always intended to be a way for the states to hold the power to regulate themselves.
The EU is fine for now, but I could easily see them going down a road to toward the same mistakes the US made. Especially if, in response to the failure of the US, they end up organizing a centralized EU-controlled military, and then all it takes is a bit of FUD to put a demagogue into power and wield that military to oppress.
No If USA falls into a fascist dictatorship, and the fedetal government takes full control, but in another 10 years, the fascist regime is exchanged for democracy again.
How can you say USA didn’t survive, just because they had a bad period?
You are arguing arbitrary points that have no impact on my original claim.
No what I argue is based on the reality that the president has the executive power, and can choose to ignore the checks and balances, because they are poorly designed, and only work when everybody respects them.
But again all that is besides the point.
California should consider becoming independent and joining the EU😂
If California leaves the USA and gets reasonable gun control and housing costs under control, I would want to be a citizen of the New California Republic.
We would still be just the California Republic, there has been no break between the Bear Flag revolt and the current government. Reminder the NCR in Fallout 2 and New Vegas is not a pre-war remnant but instead a new world government taking heavy inspiration from the old world
You summoned the bear.
Reminder the flag used to look like this circa Fallout 2
This is vexillologically offensive.
The best part is that it survived into Fallout NV concept art, that means that there was a good chance this gloriously awful flag could’ve survived if the devs weren’t cowards.
Almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter…
Absolutely and Denmark has also made an offer to buy California, which would have many advantages for Trump. For one he would get rid of one of the most pesky blue states.
Many Californians have actually offered to help financing the purchase!
https://denmarkification.com/
I don’t think that’s a serious campaign, but it is pretty funny.
Trump says he wants to buy Greenland (from Denmark), bewildering, insulting, and angering Denmark, so these people have put together an equally absurd offer for Trump.
Nice.
It’s absolutely not serious, and you are right, it’s to make fun of Trump because he wants to buy Greenland.
california could buy itself
Yes, but that wouldn’t provide the obvious benefits of being part of Denmark. 😋
Which are almost none since it’s on the other side of the world and has a GDP 10x higher (~4t) than Denmark (~4b).
I do like the cheek in that website though.
Finally, a way to keep the Zonies out!
More realistically the blue states should consider the fact that the red states will always be slowing them down and they might need to secede and form their own country and let the red states become a third world country because that’s what they clearly want.
Begun, the Balkanization of the US has.
The Fragmented States of America
Please I beg any and all powers make this happen, as a Californian.
Well if the states aren’t united anymore, the USA is dead, no?
That was exclusively my speculation, there is no hint of that in the article.
Ah then I misunderstood your message because I came to the same conclusion but it sounded like two separate parts.