• mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr
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    2 days ago

    What about both are conspiracies, and people act as they see fit? Doesn’t mean they’ll do good or not abide to their partners rules

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        1 day ago

        The morality of the meme was “You think Israel controls US when it is US who controls Israel”. I say it’s a very bold claim either way. They have aligned ideals but they can’t be considered only as the tool of the other. Clearly if US were to stop funding Israel’s plans they would not be able to fight as much, but US also benefit from Israel with weaponry, war engineering and intel.

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          It is not a bold claim. Israel was from the outset an European colonial project which gained support from the US and Britain to gain a satellite in West Asia, as its unsinkable aircraft carrier/missile platform. The huge amounts of “aid” that has been given to them from its inception should be ample proof (whomever pays for the band picks the music) but US politicians aren’t shy about it either, as with Biden

          Were there not an Israel the United States would have to invent an Israel

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      2 days ago

      It’s a healthy mindset to be doubtful when it comes to memes but given recent events the thought of the US using military aid as leverage to have their way with an ally is not all that controversial. Consider that Israel would cease to exist if the US decided to stop funding the IDF.

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      2 days ago

      I think Nasarallah is right, the full quote is that the Israel lobby conspiracy was created by the Arabs so they could feel ok taking American money and depositing money there. The Israel lobby is comprised of Americans. Netanyahu, though born in Israel, was raised in the US.

      https://www.memri.org/tv/hizbullah-sec-gen-hassan-nasrallah-america-conrols-israel-no-jewish-zionist-lobby