More important than opposition to the current system is the prefiguration of an anarchic one. So much online discourse is about attacking, a lot less is about building. I drew this to remind myself and others that confronting the state is only a part of the puzzle and building new systems without it is also important.

Licence (as always): CC-0, No rights reserved.

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    What is morality if not the belief of the majority? The only other option is actionable morality of the few, leading to tribalism and fuedalism.

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      9 hours ago

      Morality is the cultural baseline of acceptability and culture isn’t dictated by the majority. If a culture diverges it is two separate cultures. Nighter could be considered the majority. This is the point I’m trying to make, instead of having a single group of people and trying to find compromises why not just have multiple groups living their lives and cooperating when needed? Why do you need this single entity to manage these wildly different people?

      But my question stands: If the majority of people in your country voted to have you killed, would you let them kill you?

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        8 hours ago

        If a group thinks people of different skin color should be killed to remove them from the gene pool then by your definition they would be in the moral right.

        I am of the opinion that those people are morally wrong.

        If we disagree in this then you’re intolerant and you therefor cannot be tolerated.

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          7 hours ago

          This is the topic of absolute or relative morality, here is my take.

          In that groups moral reference frame they would be morally right, but it wouldn’t change how I’d react. I wouldn’t agree with them or share their morals but I also know I couldn’t change their morals. Instead I would do whatever I could to remove any POC from the grasp of the group and arm them for protection. They would consider that morally wrong. I consider it morally right, because I believe everyone has the right to live. After that I’d probably try and build a barrier around them to stop them from hurting others.

          At the end of the day actions matter a lot more than beliefs. It doesn’t really matter what I believe, only what actions I take.

          Or to but it differently I also believe those people are morally wrong. I also believe they think they’re morally right. And as I don’t place my own opinions over others I cannot say who is right. I can only act in the way I believe is right.

          To reiterate: I believe those people are wrong. They are claiming another persons right to exist and that goes against my beliefs. I would to anything I could to stop them. But I also know that’s my moral position. It’s not theirs. But it doesn’t matter, I do what I believe is right.

          But in the end it doesn’t matter. My actions would not change even if I believed they were morally wrong. I still act according to my moral position. So what difference does it make whether I believe it’s the only one or one of many?

          Desperately trying to phrase this in a way that makes my point come across because this is a very delicate topic, and communicating in text isn’t my strong suit.