More important than opposition to the current system is the prefiguration of an anarchic one. So much online discourse is about attacking, a lot less is about building. I drew this to remind myself and others that confronting the state is only a part of the puzzle and building new systems without it is also important.
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K. The belief you can do that without community, and while centering self-interest, is classically childish anarchism.
But the memes here are good usually.
you might be confusing anarchism, the exact polar opposite of “without community” with the hyper-individualist flavor of american libertarianism
I don’t think you understand anarchism or what we mean when we say “without a state”. Hint: it’s the opposite from “without community, and while centering self-interest,”
How would a stateless society enforce contracts?
The way it worked for millennia in societies without a powerful state –
by shunning the contract breakers in your community.
Just extraordinarily naive.
What kind of contracts do you expecting within a moneyless system?
Are you for real? Do you think work will cease to exist? Monetary compensation isn’t the only thing that can be exchanged for work/art/etc.
We already have all sorts of contracts that don’t involve money directly. Marriage is a contract, and that wouldn’t just cease to exist.
People are selfish and greedy. There needs to be something to try to prevent and/or punish that. And literal force/violence is the only thing that can ever do it. Without it, there will always be people who abuse it.
So what happens is the person with the biggest gun/stick/army/etc. wins the dispute. Every time.
That’s how you end up with feudalism. How come libertarians always need to personally re-learn every mistake and lesson we’ve already learned the hard way? It is literally currently destroying the US government.
Learn some history and we don’t have to repeat the same mistakes again and again.
People aren’t selfish or greedy. People are ambitious and in the current society those people are raised to believe that to be the best you have to be selfish and greedy. They aren’t traits you are born with, they are learned.
But anarchy still is the best way to deal with greedy people as any kind of hierarchy will just allow the greedy people to get to the top. Hierarchies don’t punish the greedy, they elevate them to the highest positions in society as those that aren’t concerned with other peoples well being can always find a way to gain authority over them.
Anarchy has that something. You can counter abuse without being abusive yourself. We can build social structures that prevent greed without hierarchy. The solution isn’t to give some people a monopoly on violence because that position will always attract the most violent. It’s to build a social networks that sees problems before they happen and provides support. Punishment isn’t a productive method of preventing harm. It’s vengeance, not prevention.
What is currently destroying the US isn’t libertarianism, it’s bad education, mass media manipulation and a bunch of people following orders.
OK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhnovshchina
What kind of enforcement would a “marriage contract” need in a moneyless society?
Greedy selfish people can’t abuse a system that doesn’t allow accumulation of wealth.
Sidenote that this is an anarchist space and while we tolerate such some debate, we don’t have to tolerate your shitty attitude. Check the sidebar.
I understand how you believe it’ll work. I think it’s naive and unrealistic. Especially as a first system post-capitalism.
Cool story bro