• wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

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      1 day ago

      I think you guys are going to sit and boil.

      If you ask me, things should have started burning a few months ago.

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        Unfortunately, this is a exactly what Trump wants. He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections. All of this is calculated.

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          23 hours ago

          He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections.

          And the alternative is sit and let ICE blackbag innocents?

          The US has the 2nd amendment, which they love so much. ICE should be getting gunned down in the street by this point.

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              20 hours ago

              It’s already happening. America can passively accept their country is gone, or they can fight to try and save it.

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                And the minute they begin to fight, Trump locks it all down and America enters into a martial law that I guarantee won’t end before his third term.

                If there’s an uprising- it’ll have to be all-or-nothing- and that nothing will come at a heavy cost.

                I really hope people know this is exactly what he wants. You’re being baited into giving him everything he needs.

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                  22 minutes ago

                  You’re right. It’s better to just hide in your homes and hope for the best. Don’t want to play into his hands.

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                    I love how people can’t debate without writing lines for their opponent. It has the added benefit of making it easier to just tag them as a waste of time.

                    If you want to discuss this, I get to say my part in this- not you.

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          If I’m not mistaken, a full national declaration of martial law would require not only approval of individual state legislatures, but also the loyalty of the military and the National Guard in every state.

          By bypassing laws and regulations, totally disregarding checks and balances now that mechanism is compromised, the bastard need not to declare martial law to spread terror.

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          I dunno about that. This was more or less Chuck Schumers approach to passing his agenda. If you fight him it’s going to get worse, so don’t fight? I feel foreign nationals shouldn’t be leading the charge because of their vulnerability, but for full-fledged us born citizens following the law with their rebuke, surely many would martyr themselves for a historical rally against fascism knowing the ACLU would defend them.

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            Oh we should absolutely be fighting but not with guns. We should be fighting with the law and protests. We should be confronting these fuckers at every junction. But the moment we pick up a gun or a rock or some other violent means we just give them the excuse to escalate the fascism.

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      I blame the “fuck you got mine” mentality that’s become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren’t equipped for that.

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        Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”

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          I feel it started before and it was like that before covid. I’m gen Z and I remember around 2017 the rise of popularity of songs about “me me me being the #1 gang banger the gangster, them bitches love me, them ni**as hating” among the people in my age group, and it sorta just grew from there.

          What I noticed during covid and once TikTok style videos became mainstream was sort of a “normalization” or acceptance of the phenomena mentioned above.

          Remember Wall-E were everyone in the future is a fat individualistic human being, connected to a bed on wheels with a screen and everyone seems to be doing their own thing with no resemblance of families, couples, friends, goals?

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            Agreed I’m 42 and personally growing up in the late 80s and 90s I feel like Regan and Rush Limbaugh were both a big influence on the situation the country is in now. And honestly, you can go back to Nixon and JFK getting assassinated as the main focal point from when America stopped being America and became more conservative and for the money and for the wealthy.

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      Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Americans won’t do shit. The tech oligarchy and the facists have the population exactly where they want them to be, struggling and unable to take actions.

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      20 hours ago

      when the fuck do we rise up?

      As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

      Never.

      And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

      From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

      This was avoidable.

      And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

      I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.