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Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml to Programmer Humor@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

at the trilogue meeting, secretly negotiating legislation to reduce web browser security

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at the trilogue meeting, secretly negotiating legislation to reduce web browser security

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Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml to Programmer Humor@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • stoy@lemmy.zip
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    TETRA? The radio protocol used by the police?

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      not only, but yes.

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        Sigh…

        I did not expect them to be so dumb as to break their own specific encryption systems…

        Well, I guess I expected the bare minimum from the government, and they let me down…

        …again.

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          Also, the implementation is fucking horrible. The rule is literally “Press, Think, Speak”, because requesting to speak and opening a connection takes a solid 5-10 seconds. Very good if you want to communicate while in a burning house. Literally everybody hates it.

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            Oh, what the fuck?

            One of the key benefits of radio communications, is that it acts as a megaphone, but only to people monitoring the channel.

            Press the PTT key, and talk (following established radio protocol), 5-10 sec delay is crap!

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              That’s why fire over here is either on analog FM or DMR

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            That sounds horrible. What about this stupid standard takes this fucking long? Is it not improvable by current tech?

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              They are working on it. The TETRA standard is from the 90s, and by now the last fire departments are switching to it (TETRA)

              Maybe 20 years between the federal decision and the last county implementing the new standard.

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            Are you using a different Tetra than anyone else? Because every radio i have used takes at max 1-1,5s to establish communications?

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      No it’s the tech behind milk cartons, tetrapak

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        It’s what caused all those children to go missing

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          Sacrifices had to be made

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        So Alfa Laval?

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    Just fuckin’ start rectally examining every damm citizen!

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      yep, just in case theyre hiding a terrorist or pedophile up there.

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          Fuck cars

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            damn carsexuals exist??

  • Fluke McHappenstance@snake.substantialplumbing.repair
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    Security through bureaucracy.

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      Please don’t.

      • Fluke McHappenstance@snake.substantialplumbing.repair
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        Sorry but do you have a Please Don’t Form 1302?

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          Only the Can You Don’t 3907B

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            That one does not apply today or tomorrow.

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              But I have a The Eighties Called 60873.a form that allows me to use that previous one

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    Europeans: “Those perfidious Russians and the nefarious Chinese are the two single biggest threats to our domestic security. Why… they’ll just hack into any old thing and fill it full of evil communist propaganda. They’ll shut down our critical infrastructure, hijack our data services, and spam us so full of phishing attempts that you won’t know what’s safe to click on! And all just to watch us fail, then laugh at us. The fiends!!!”

    Also Europeans: “Google’s CEO said we need to dismantle the last ten years of digital safety standards so we can undermine the YouTube adblocker. Make this our top priority.”

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      i hope this is exclusively anti-google and not some in-between the lines way of saying we’re also being too harsh to two genocidal dictatorships

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      The legislation requires web browsers to trust EU countries’ CAs (which browsers already tend to do, but are presently free to remove when they’re observed being misused) and prohibits doing non-ETSI-approved validity checks (eg, certificate transparency, which is a way CA-misusing MITM attackers can be caught).

      Wouldn’t you say the point of that particular clause is to reduce browser security (so that cops and intelligence agencies are free to exploit it without interference from CT)?

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          If they wanted to make browsers less secure, they would do so in much more obvious ways.

          The new proposal demands browsers automatically trust government created root certificates. That means any EU government can do a man-in-the-middle attack on any end user running that web browser, even users in other countries. There is no reason to do that other than to spy on people or to manipulate the content that they’re viewing.

          If any government, or company for that matter, wants to make their own root cert and deploy it to all their users/machines they can already do that easily. A lot of companies that work with sensitive data already do this, and some companies (ex: symantec) provide solutions to do it very easily, so the IT team can see everything the users are doing.

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            https://spectrum.ieee.org/diginotar-certificate-authority-breach-crashes-egovernment-in-the-netherlands

            This is probably the seed of this madness

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    Golf clap

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    If anyone actually bothers to read the EU website, it’s not the EU you have to worry about

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      Who is it then?

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        In one one of the randomly selected messages at the top of their homepage they show their opencollective page. They’ve marked themselves as Australian

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