By pointing out American hypocrisy through a reductionist view of gun politics in the U.S.?
If you can’t figure out by now that the majority of blue voters are not the ones who were arming themselves… or that they were the ones voting for gun control… what are you trying to say, again?
The time for my contributions to matter to the problems in the US is kinda gone.
The point is that it’s up to you now.
I’ll do what I can to help but it’s not like rational dicussion of policy will matter much now, will it? Now would be the time to utilise the 2A if it had any leg to stand on, but as we’ve been telling the American conservatives (and other gun enthusiasts) for years, it doesn’t.
Ironic it went this way but literally, what can I do?
So, let me get this straight, you think that you’re entitled to being a smug prick because of what? Because you’ve said something to someone? Who? How much do you want to bet that it was someone who already agreed with you?
Beyond which, I’ve gotten into a discussion with you before - what makes you think you’re particularly gifted in convincing… anyone? Of anything? How many people, we’re talking hard MAGA conservatives (you know, the people who need to be unbrainwashed) have you convinced?
Please, tell me what you’ve done Lord Dasus - give me your receipts. Show me what you’ve done. Prove it.
How many people, we’re talking hard MAGA conservatives (you know, the people who need to be unbrainwashed) have you convinced?
Several.
Well, depends on your definition, as they weren’t strictly MAGA people, but the equivalent of, in my part of the world.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m weary and making dark jokes about the US.
You get super annoyed, don’t you? I’m betting you didn’t register even 1% of 1% of that emotional response when standups were cracking jokes about Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Saddam, Afghanistan, Iraq, South American countries, etc, despite those countries also having innocent, suffering people?
You do realise humour is a way of coping, right?
You’re just getting upset because you’re the butt of the coping mechanism now. I know the US falling is indirectly a danger to me as well. I’m also aware of how chronically stubborn and willfully ignorant people are. But I have got through to several. Maybe one in two dozen, I’d say.
Hell, I once convinced a 75-year old who grew up on drug propaganda, in very drug opposing Finland, that weed should be legalised. It took about 6 hours, several pints and a bottle of Jäeger, but I found the right words and broke through. Although I have to say to he is intelligent, unlike most Americans. He was the head of the local Mensa, but that by itself doesn’t mean much. (Oh and this was in 2011 roughly, now people have slightly more liberal attitudes and the discussion of legalisation is actually on the board. And I contributed. Through political parties as well.)
I’m just one person. I actively fight disinfo and I’m in the army reserves.
No, I’m pointing out that being an asshole about it after the fact does nothing but suggest you have no idea how this happened.
You understand that, even if you were able prove these handful of people exist and were convinced by you - that there were entire teams dedicated to spreading propaganda online? Thank you for having said something before shit it the fan, it was the right thing to do - are you aware of just how silent your words were compared to the bad actors?
What you’re doing is getting mad at someone for not being able to hear your speaking voice over a jet engine. Please point to what good that does, I’m all eyes.
Again, you don’t like it when someone jokes about the shitty situation in your country but I’m pretty sure you’ve made your fair share of “delivering freedom” (as in dropping bombs on helpless victims) jokes without feeling the slightest twinge of “being smug about it.” You’ve probably not even given a second thought that you’re actually making jokes on the expense of innocent people.
“Even if these handful of people exist”
Last comment is what “you never convince anyone of anything”. Moving the goalposts much?
Here, have a look at this reply I just had a few hours back.
Not that it was about politics, but it’s just here to show your assertion about me being shit in “convincing people” is downright false. I don’t have a need to prove to you the amount of people I’ve persuaded and what of. You’re just angry I made a joke about the horrible situation you’re in.
What you’re doing is getting mad at someone
Oh no, hunny, that’s all you. I’m smooth as fuck, I’m trying to go to bed, so I’m on 3mg of melatonin, 20mg of Ambien, 45mg oxazepam and a buttload of weed. :)
The question is what is the right thing to do, no matter the personal cost.
By pointing out American hypocrisy through a reductionist view of gun politics in the U.S.?
If you can’t figure out by now that the majority of blue voters are not the ones who were arming themselves… or that they were the ones voting for gun control… what are you trying to say, again?
Oh, it’s quite simple, really:
Thank you for your meaningful contribution.
The time for my contributions to matter to the problems in the US is kinda gone.
The point is that it’s up to you now.
I’ll do what I can to help but it’s not like rational dicussion of policy will matter much now, will it? Now would be the time to utilise the 2A if it had any leg to stand on, but as we’ve been telling the American conservatives (and other gun enthusiasts) for years, it doesn’t.
Ironic it went this way but literally, what can I do?
So, let me get this straight, you think that you’re entitled to being a smug prick because of what? Because you’ve said something to someone? Who? How much do you want to bet that it was someone who already agreed with you?
Beyond which, I’ve gotten into a discussion with you before - what makes you think you’re particularly gifted in convincing… anyone? Of anything? How many people, we’re talking hard MAGA conservatives (you know, the people who need to be unbrainwashed) have you convinced?
Please, tell me what you’ve done Lord Dasus - give me your receipts. Show me what you’ve done. Prove it.
Several.
Well, depends on your definition, as they weren’t strictly MAGA people, but the equivalent of, in my part of the world.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m weary and making dark jokes about the US.
You get super annoyed, don’t you? I’m betting you didn’t register even 1% of 1% of that emotional response when standups were cracking jokes about Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Saddam, Afghanistan, Iraq, South American countries, etc, despite those countries also having innocent, suffering people?
You do realise humour is a way of coping, right?
You’re just getting upset because you’re the butt of the coping mechanism now. I know the US falling is indirectly a danger to me as well. I’m also aware of how chronically stubborn and willfully ignorant people are. But I have got through to several. Maybe one in two dozen, I’d say.
Hell, I once convinced a 75-year old who grew up on drug propaganda, in very drug opposing Finland, that weed should be legalised. It took about 6 hours, several pints and a bottle of Jäeger, but I found the right words and broke through. Although I have to say to he is intelligent, unlike most Americans. He was the head of the local Mensa, but that by itself doesn’t mean much. (Oh and this was in 2011 roughly, now people have slightly more liberal attitudes and the discussion of legalisation is actually on the board. And I contributed. Through political parties as well.)
I’m just one person. I actively fight disinfo and I’m in the army reserves.
What more can I do?
Or are you just crying about one joke?
No, I’m pointing out that being an asshole about it after the fact does nothing but suggest you have no idea how this happened.
You understand that, even if you were able prove these handful of people exist and were convinced by you - that there were entire teams dedicated to spreading propaganda online? Thank you for having said something before shit it the fan, it was the right thing to do - are you aware of just how silent your words were compared to the bad actors?
What you’re doing is getting mad at someone for not being able to hear your speaking voice over a jet engine. Please point to what good that does, I’m all eyes.
Again, you don’t like it when someone jokes about the shitty situation in your country but I’m pretty sure you’ve made your fair share of “delivering freedom” (as in dropping bombs on helpless victims) jokes without feeling the slightest twinge of “being smug about it.” You’ve probably not even given a second thought that you’re actually making jokes on the expense of innocent people.
“Even if these handful of people exist”
Last comment is what “you never convince anyone of anything”. Moving the goalposts much?
Here, have a look at this reply I just had a few hours back.
Not that it was about politics, but it’s just here to show your assertion about me being shit in “convincing people” is downright false. I don’t have a need to prove to you the amount of people I’ve persuaded and what of. You’re just angry I made a joke about the horrible situation you’re in.
Oh no, hunny, that’s all you. I’m smooth as fuck, I’m trying to go to bed, so I’m on 3mg of melatonin, 20mg of Ambien, 45mg oxazepam and a buttload of weed. :)
Well if we could harness the power of Smug you could light up the world.
Oh no, is joking about other nations wrong when the butt of the joke is you and not a developing nation you’re bombing or taking over economically?