• MissJinx@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I’m not american and don’t care about politics but I was watching a show the other day and when Rogan appeared as a guest I had to shut off after 5 minutes. This person is so annoying I couldn’t stand. Don’t know how you guys do it. I didn’t even liked him in newsradio and I loved the show.

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    15 hours ago

    How this fucking australopithecus became a thought leader, I will never understand.

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    15 hours ago

    Ironically, retard was originally a kinder word cooked up to describe people with lower intelligence, along with moron, idiot, cretin, and imbecile. Over time these became pejoratives. Just kind of interesting to see how language develops and terms intended to avoid offense over time turn into ones that offend people.

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    16 hours ago

    I mean, i never really stopped calling people like Rogan and Trump retarded… But calling it a great cultural victory, is just… Retarded.

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    You see, the problem with that word is that people who want to keep it around really make me wanna use it.

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    13 hours ago

    They can describe themselves again. I suppose that could be considered cultural restoration?

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    21 hours ago

    Honestly, if the culture war has been going on this long and the “greatest victory” they can show for it is feeling comfortable using the r slur again, thats just deeply sad for them lol.

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      20 hours ago

      I think wayyyyy more people than you realize say it. Even people you think are raging leftists. Most of us got quiet because we in general agree with left leaning things. Feel free to skim my profile…

      But man… fucking EVERYONE says retarded. I’m very left leaning. Once I got away from a few select people… it was genuinely kind of a culture shock for me how many people say it lol.

      I’m not advocating for people to just sling it like crazy… and I know in a way that’s kind of what’s gonna happen to SOME EXTENT… but as someone who tried to push other folks toward not saying this in the past…

      I 100% think it’s a lost cause. I don’t think it’s going away. I don’t personally think it’s ableist and never did.

      To make a comparison, from my perspective, it’s kind of like turning the word “insane” into a slur… we did some reaaaal bad things to people under the veil they were “insane.” We put people in jail and mental hospital for most of their lives. We fried their brains with medication and lobotomized them both chemically and physically. It’s not as common, but it is 100% an insult to tell someone they are insane or acting insane (I mean if they’re bashing their skull into a tree or somethin that IS insane but that would also be an extreme example to call someone retarded over)

      But we don’t get upset about calling people insane today… everything has context and I think the context of retard has moved on from why people are offended.

      A more apt comparison is being equally mad you called someone slow… I mean… retard is literally a word for slow in French… it kinda really only become ableist when someone wants it to be interpreted that way. At what point is simply calling someone stupid not also then ableist? Are we gonna crucify people if they use any other insult beyond “ignorant” that doesn’t indicate the insultee’s willingness in their stupidity? Or is “you lack/display a lack of intelligence” (the definition of stupidity) somehow more classy than slow and retarded in your eyes?

      My 2c is that unless you expect to erase the word (you’re not going to) you’re better off helping to change the meaning in common view (most of us just think it means ya RLY RLY fkin dumb but use a word beyond stupid or idiot) and steal it back from them. Grinding to death and dividing OURSELVES internally over shit this nonsensical is killing us.

      It’s an easy code switch that uses their language against them and makes you more credible in their eyes 🤷🏻 as an ally I’m just saying not every battle can be won the way you originally wanted it to be

      TLDR: bunch of different justifications for why I call MAGATs retards when they make stupid points in arguments

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    22 hours ago

    Just in case anyone had begun to consider that Joe Rogan is anything but an absolute infected boil on the ass of civilization.