• LeFantome@programming.dev
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    9 days ago

    While I agree with your emotion, let’s please also not abandon facts.

    One in three Americans voted for Trump. So we cannot with any certainty say that any American individual did.

    That said, as a group, they did elect him. One third voted for him and one third did not voted—allowing him to win. So I agree completely that they elected him and they do not get a pass for that.

    However, I do not know how any individual voted.

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      8 days ago

      One in three Americans voted for Trump

      Or in more effective terms, only one third of Americans voted against Trump. Counting votes against eligible voters instead of votes cast isn’t the win you think it is.

      No one here needs a reminder that 2/3 isn’t 3/3, thanks.

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        8 days ago

        The principle remains: judge the group for its collective behavior, but don’t stereotype the individual.

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          7 days ago

          america, the collective group, is treating the world as an enemy… the only way we can deal with this is to treat the collective group also as an enemy, for the most part

          if you think that’s unfair, well, congratulations imagine how canada, europe, australia (who has a trade surplus and still has tariffs because apparently we have to make up the deficit for the rest of the world) feels about the situation

          we are angry, every american should be angry, and come time for the next election EVERY SINGLE ANERICAN needs to FEEL like the world is angry AT THEM so that this time they FUCKING VOTE rather than spewing apathetic “both sides” bullshit

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            7 days ago

            “Don’t assume a specific individual isn’t among the 30% who tried” isn’t a “both sides” argument. Neither is there any pragmatism in proactively excluding someone who might already be your ally, nor in purity testing those who wish to be.

            No matter how angry you are today, that anger will fade. I hope your decisions are being driven by something more steadfast.