We already know that the steamdeck plays switch games better than the switch. It would be hilarious if it also plays switch2 games better than the switch2.
It hasn’t been my experience that Deck emulates Switch games better than the Switch, unless you mean 3rd party titles running on Proton instead of being emulated, in which case, I’d agree. For example, haven’t been able to get a solid 60fps on MK8 in split screen mode.
I’ve been trying to play totk on my steam deck cuz im not shelling out 70 bucks for a game and it runs at like 20 fps. How are you getting it running playably
I haven’t tested them, but my understanding is that on a faster gaming PC, it’s a better experience than the Switch. My understanding is also that the frame rate on the Steam Deck isn’t great for them, especially TotK, and that BotW is more playable on Steam Deck with Cemu. Here’s a thread on Reddit talking about how to get beyond 20fps for TotK with mods and other techniques:
It definitely won’t play Switch 2 games better. The hardware is roughly in the same ballpark performance wise, but the steam deck needs to emulate Switch 2 games.
Please, you can argue all you want against Nintendo, but just straight up lying really doesn’t help.
So basically, the Deck and Switch 2 are roughly inverted in compartitive hardware power… the Deck has a more powerful CPU, the Switch 2 has a more powerful GPU.
That is different in significant ways than an x86/64 CPU.
How the system allocates memory is also… a confounding factor.
Sometimes you have just one kind of RAM shared between the CPU and GPU. Sometimes there are different kinds of RAM for the CPU and GPU.
It looks like the Switch 2 is sharing LPPDR5 RAM between the CPU and GPU, as the Deck does… on the Deck, you can use CryoUtils to manually adjust how much is allocated to which.
The Switch 2 will… maybe have a standardized allocation for all games, or allow certain games to adjust the allocation.
And then if course there is port quality, and proton…
It gets pretty complicated to estimate just purely from specs alone.
Hence why the PC centric crowd is so much into empirical testing via benchmarks.
That low ram is going to hurt the new switch pretty quickly, I think. I wouldn’t get a newish pc/laptop if it didn’t have at least 16g ram these days. They’re going to struggle again with ports.
core count x clock speed hasn’t been a good metric for about 15-20 years, but if we go by that anyway then it looks like the switch2 will be slightly worse than a steam deck.
We already know that the steamdeck plays switch games better than the switch. It would be hilarious if it also plays switch2 games better than the switch2.
It hasn’t been my experience that Deck emulates Switch games better than the Switch, unless you mean 3rd party titles running on Proton instead of being emulated, in which case, I’d agree. For example, haven’t been able to get a solid 60fps on MK8 in split screen mode.
Maybe not all games, but the two Zelda games run better on emulator than they do on Switch.
Metroid dread runs pretty great on Deck, too! But last I checked Mario odyssey is something like 10fps, same with the mario galaxy switch port 😢
I’ve been trying to play totk on my steam deck cuz im not shelling out 70 bucks for a game and it runs at like 20 fps. How are you getting it running playably
I’ll look into it when I get a chance, I don’t remember the details, but it went pretty smoothly for me.
I haven’t tested them, but my understanding is that on a faster gaming PC, it’s a better experience than the Switch. My understanding is also that the frame rate on the Steam Deck isn’t great for them, especially TotK, and that BotW is more playable on Steam Deck with Cemu. Here’s a thread on Reddit talking about how to get beyond 20fps for TotK with mods and other techniques:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yuzu/comments/176700x/zelda_totk_playable_on_steam_deck/
I made my statement based on popular opinion. I don’t have personal experience with it.
It definitely won’t play Switch 2 games better. The hardware is roughly in the same ballpark performance wise, but the steam deck needs to emulate Switch 2 games.
Please, you can argue all you want against Nintendo, but just straight up lying really doesn’t help.
Steam link to a desktop running an emulator though?
Is there even much competition between them though, I would have thought people considering one wouldn’t even think of the other.
If the switch 2s hardware isn’t better than the Deck, then of course it will.
Do we know what the switch2’s hardware is yet?
If the leaks are correct its:
Full specs:
Handheld Mode:
Docked Mode:
I personally don’t know how that compares to other hardware though.
(Edit: Thanks for the replies!)
Here’s the OLED Deck specs for comparison:
APU
(which contains:)
CPU:
GPU:
…
RAM:
Storage:
EDIT: More details
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Steam-Deck-OLED-APU-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.799065.0.html
So basically, the Deck and Switch 2 are roughly inverted in compartitive hardware power… the Deck has a more powerful CPU, the Switch 2 has a more powerful GPU.
EDIT 2:
also the Deck has 33% more RAM.
Consoles can also do more with less since the games are (unless they’re shitty ports) designed for that specific hardware.
Yep, this is always a factor, even with PC games.
For example: the Switch 2 uses an ARM CPU.
That is different in significant ways than an x86/64 CPU.
How the system allocates memory is also… a confounding factor.
Sometimes you have just one kind of RAM shared between the CPU and GPU. Sometimes there are different kinds of RAM for the CPU and GPU.
It looks like the Switch 2 is sharing LPPDR5 RAM between the CPU and GPU, as the Deck does… on the Deck, you can use CryoUtils to manually adjust how much is allocated to which.
The Switch 2 will… maybe have a standardized allocation for all games, or allow certain games to adjust the allocation.
And then if course there is port quality, and proton…
It gets pretty complicated to estimate just purely from specs alone.
Hence why the PC centric crowd is so much into empirical testing via benchmarks.
That low ram is going to hurt the new switch pretty quickly, I think. I wouldn’t get a newish pc/laptop if it didn’t have at least 16g ram these days. They’re going to struggle again with ports.
core count x clock speed hasn’t been a good metric for about 15-20 years, but if we go by that anyway then it looks like the switch2 will be slightly worse than a steam deck.
Might be somewhat comparable to a laptop RTX 3050: https://tech4gamers.com/nintendo-switch-2-equipped-with-5nm-nvidia-tegra/