Lemmy is populated by far left Americans who were banned from Reddit for extremism. Strict ideological conformity is required or you’ll get actual death threats. Don’t go there unless you want violent communist revolution and hate discussing interesting ideas.
“Liberal” is not a useful word, imo. It means different things to different people. Hexbear users define it in the sense of neoliberalism, a historically right position. To many it means “progressive.” To others, it means “somewhere on the left, and I don’t care to put myself into a particular box.”
If we’d quit shitting on people who call themselves “liberal,” we might actually have a more cohesive coalition, rather than rejecting anyone for the tiniest perceived infraction, real or imagined.
Liberal, to me, is the opposite of authoritarian. No idea what other people consider it to be, but IMO it’s entirely disconnected from the left/right spectrum. You can have authoritarian left, right or center, same way with liberal.
Like in, “liberal democracy.” But consider what “the opposite of authoritarian” means in the context of financial policies. The predictable movements of money are punishing to those who don’t own capital in a self-perpetuating vicious cycle that ends with a few wealthy people and millions of people suffering poverty. A lack of regulation of finances results in total authority of capital. Neoliberalism seeks to reduce the authority of the state while increasing the authority of capital.
It is not just finances, a lack of regulation is a problem in a lot of areas because the naive capitalist idea that people will be able to vote with their wallets doesn’t work for 90% of product issues (anything you can’t see, anything you don’t purchase often, anything you can see but lack the expertise to judge, …).
I think it’s connected to unregulated capitalism in the eyes of its opponents here.
Just because you don’t know what a word means does not make the word not useful. Just because ignorant people misuse the word does not make the word meaningless.
When politically illiterate people use the word liberal to mean “progressive” they are just showing their ignorance. Liberalism is “progressive” when compared to absolute monarchy but that’s not saying much.
Hexbear users most certainly do not mean “neoliberalism” when they say “liberal.” Don’t project your ignorance on other people. Hexbear is a politically literate community.
Instead of writing this horribly ignorant comment you should have just gone and looked up what Liberalism is. The definition is like 3 clicks away.
You don’t build a “cohesive coalition” by inviting anyone with any ideology. If people don’t share views any “coalition” will tear itself apart.
Not gonna speak for everyone there, but I’ve literally seen someone claim “Liberal” derives from “Neoliberal”, so let’s not pretend it’s a bastion of political geniuses.