No matter what happens, I believe the author is correct. Europe will not trust the US in a long time. Trump actually has managed to destroy the image of America in the entire world, in a few months.
No matter what happens, I believe the author is correct. Europe will not trust the US in a long time. Trump actually has managed to destroy the image of America in the entire world, in a few months.
It seems to me most Americans here know what’s going on, and understand it well.
But overall I think most Europeans understand USA in a way most Americans don’t. We generally understand how USA as a society is sick, sick with selfishness to a degree it’s become sociopathic, and for some reason it refuses anything that could help cure it.
50 years ago USA was to many Europeans an ideal to follow. Today it’s a warning of what NOT to do.
A lot of our citizens have felt that way for decades. The only way to change it is to remove the money and lobbyists from politics. So in other words we are fucked. The sickness has long set in. Whoever can steer the ship has decided this is who we are, and a lot of us that vote seem okay with it. I fucken hate it here.
Spot on take. It’s not hopeless though; greedy and selfish people typically reveal their own weaknesses as a result of arrogance. I don’t think enough people in the US take it seriously, but Im hoping that an entire generation of Americans does not want to die fighting over Greenland and Canada. We’ll see though.
There are a lot of good and bright people in USA, unfortunately they are not the majority.
I thought for sure Americans learned something from 2 Presidential periods with Bush. But when Trump was elected first time, I knew the American people were “Beyond pedagogical reach”. An expression used here about people who refuse to learn.
Hopefully this time will be bad enough for enough American people to finally understand the lesson, so this doesn’t happen again in a life time. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
I feel for the Americans that tried to prevent this, because they can see Trump is evil.
And anyone who denies that Trump isn’t evil has to be both blind and stupid socially. Trump is a flaming malignant narcissist, and that’s basically the definition of pure evil.
’ Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence ’ - the statement always manages to forget how evil stupidity can be.
I just wish all these protest movements would come together and ask our old allies for funding. We can fix it. Its hard and a lot of work, but sustained effort from three generations and we could fix everything. Thats not even that long in the grand scheme. But nah, let’s keep giving the suits heavy wallets while they destroy everything. Yeah, that sounds good.
I predict massive brain drain, followed by across the board exit visa requirements and/or national revocation of passports. And then we’ll be the illegal immigrants.
“It seems to me most Americans here know what’s going on”
1/3 didn’t vote and a 1/3 voted for this. so by no definition do most people have a fucking clue.
Actually it’s pretty clear a significant portion of the American population is enthusiastic about this. I don’t know what is provocative about pointing out that Americans are renowned for their racism, transphobia, and misogyny. This country had literal slaves for 200 years, has only let women vote for less than 100 years, and still pretends the Civil War was about states rights. Open your eyes: this IS what America wants, and who America has decided to become.
the floor for being enthusiastic about this is voting for it, so your first assertion is flat wrong. that none voting third is too apathetic to care about other people. the saying has been floating around for a while about the 1/3 that wants to kill you while the other third watches.
every country has committed atrocities. inherited sin is stupid. we can acknowledge the errors and systemic issues of our forefathers and move passed them.
I won’t split hairs about what enthusiasm really looks like, but I’ll respond to your last point: I agree, but it is naive and dangerous to argue that the United States has even come close to acknowledging its sins. Until then, you all will bear the full weight of those sins, like it or not.
you’re a miserable sack of shit then, got it.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Good luck with life.
The other day I was on Facebook and a dude that flat-out refused to vote for Harris because of her history in California as a prosecutor, posted that Trump was a complete idiot when it came to economics…
I was like bro you didn’t even vote… You and on a rant about how she was horrific at that anything would be better… And now here we are…
STFU bro
From what I see, most Americans here on Lemmy seems to know better than most Americans on average.
I don’t think that’s indicative though. Sure people who comment on a political post have a better understanding of politics than average.
If a third didnt vote, then 2/3s haven’t got a clue.
(Felons and other suppressed groups are exempt from this)
That is true but we have the same problems over here too. The Putin Party (AFD) will be the strongest party in Germany soon and the rest of Europe does not look much better. We are all in this together and we are fu#@£&.
I seriously doubt that, we had a similar party here in Denmark that topped at 22%. And even with 22% they never became part of government.
Even if AfD manages to become part of a government in the future, they will never have exclusive governing power like Trump has in USA. That’s the difference between a functional democracy, and the flawed democracy USA has.
AfD is mostly popular in the old East Germany, and German politicians need to figure out why that is. Why do they want authoritarianism again?
I have my suspicions, that it may have to do with not doing enough for ordinary workers, and giving too many privileges to the 1%. This is the problem in USA, where ironically they see Trump as resistance against that, when in fact he is part of the problem.
If AfD isn’t topping now, German politicians are doing something wrong. Do East Germans really favor Russia above EU?
If they do, they must be grossly misinformed.
The real reason is that German unification was done poorly and it benefited West Germany in a very disproportionate manner.
Most people and jobs migrated to west Germany and East Germany was left to rot.
Couple that with the fact that communism/socialism became a big taboo in Europe and capitalism’s faults were completely ignored, even when it was visibly failing.
When you ban and stigmatize the left so much, people will turn to the only side that actually acknowledges something is wrong, and in this case, only the far right has done so.
Maybe East Germans didn’t realize how much they were behind?
Obviously the task was to pull East Germany up to western standards. And the investments to do so were very significant.
BUT the old East Germany was more equal, and I don’t think east Germans like the inequality of what they probably perceive as a capitalist problem.
Inequality is a problem throughout Europe, and those that are supposed to be good at it, like the Scandinavian countries, have been going the wrong way for decades now.
But of course AfD is destined to make the problem worse instead of better. Just like Trump obviously is in USA. And for the same reason, namely that they lack empathy.
I too hoped they would stop at 20% but it looks like they will overturn CDU in the next survey. Numbers are on the rise in west Germany too.
And regarding the “functioning democracy” I am not to optimistic either. 😔
Will that make AfD the biggest party?
Here it stopped at 2nd biggest.
Unfortunately yes. Currently it is:
CDU/CDU: 24 Prozent AfD: 24 Prozent SPD: 16 Prozent Grüne: 11 Prozent Linke: 11 Prozent …
They don’t favor russia. They favor racial purity. A large part of the east wants an ethnostate without any “filthy outsiders or queers”.
Glad you said something. As an American, I know we suck, but so does everyone else (to differing degrees - of course USA is still #1 🥲). We had a target on us for a long time, but Obama was in office when Brexit was happening. We were hoping for change with a black president and the UK was hating immigrants. We’re all the same, they just got to us first. I really hope other countries disdain for the US (often deserved) help lead them in different directions. There is a worldwide disinformation campaign, and it’s already taken hold in so many places. We are screwed at this point, but there’s still hope for other countries. Hearing people act like this is a US specific thing is honestly a little scary. People don’t realize how fragile everything is.