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    I assure you if Bernie was nominated to run for President tomorrow, a flood of, “What has he done to earn my vote?” posts would start.

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      Bernie Sanders is the single most popular politician in the USA due to bipartisan support, even if he hasn’t been the most popular primary candidate to democrats.

      I bet the voices of dissent would be Tankie and Anarchist accelerationists who see him making things better as dodging a violent revolution.

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      Just for awareness, 30/50 states have partisan primaries. That means you must be registered as a Democrat to vote in the Democratic primary. It was a contributing factor in Bernie’s 2016 primary loss, and will be the only effective way to replace the corporate centrists with progressives in the 2026 midterms.

      Check your state’s primary type here: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_election_types_by_state

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        bernie is a centrist.

        the corporate centrists you speak of are right wingers.

        the overton window is really fucked in your country if you call people like biden “centrists”.

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    For how much emphasis liberals put in elections, they’re terrible at winning them

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      On purpose. They want to think people elections are important and all people should be doing, but manipulate the system in a way that nobody inspiring or capable is ever able to be the candidate. Therefore people get disillusioned and burnt out out of constant useless votes and just do nothing.

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        Many Americans who publicly discuss politics online will not discuss exit poll results.

        If the USA states were individual countries most would flunk the United Nations guidelines. Yet, other than discussing some of the more minor violations, most will ignore the topic.

        It’s a giant echo chamber shared across the political spectrum in the states, and it definitely drives out many voices who would otherwise talk about it. There is no champion to rally around for electoral reform. So the politicians in states that have proper ballot counting will not criticize the states that flunk the guidelines.

        What I am taking about took decades to get to this way, and will take decades to undo perhaps

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        You can’t say voting is useless if people aren’t voting. 90M eligible voters abstained in 2024. Trump won with 77M votes. That means there were 13M more people that did absolutely nothing than the winning majority.

        We also only see ~20% turnout in congressional Democratic primaries, yet people call for term limits. Rather than asking the system to passively replace Congress, maybe we should actually participate in the elections that allow active replacement of our electors.

        Condoning or defending apathy is no different than voting for your opponent.

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        and all that to end up with Trump!

        they don’t “just do nothing”, they vote for an ignorant greedy asshole who will break the status quo.

        I despise Trump but i don’t remember, in i don’t know how many countries, another politician who actually did what they promised. (except that “groceries” promise 😅

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    “we are ready to vote!!” They screamed, 2 years before midterms, after JUST failing to show up for special elections in Florida.

    And when the time comes to stand up, stand together, and vote the orange turd out of office, you will still have 50mil eligible voters who never even registered.

    America doesn’t care about democracy, as seen by all the times they’ve used democracy as an excuse to rob another country of resources and left them with no functioning democracy.

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    They were complacent, though. Millions of blue forgot to vote for Harris in 2024, we also lost both chambers of congress.

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      They didn’t forget. They protested at the polls. It was impossible to exist in the US without being reminded of the election.

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        No. They forgot. Or straight up didn’t care. A “protest at the polls” would mean voting 3rd party at the bare minimum. Not showing up mean they don’t care. To be fair there was some voter suppression going on, but that doesn’t account for anywhere near the 80 mil who literally don’t ever vote.

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          I disagree. This was the most widely advertised election in US history.

          Republicans need to fall in line. Democrats need to fall in love. The left doesn’t mobilize unless deeply motivated.

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            Yeah and that’s because a huge chunk of the base doesn’t care. Republicans fall in line because they care, even if they only care because of moronic fearmongering. Dems won’t stoop to that low, so the only way to make people care is to offer a candidate that energizes people to do the bare minimum.