• Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Yes, we agree completely. I just meant the word “wanted” is pejorative. You can intend something without necessarily wanting it.

    When he was little my son broke the growth plate off of his arm at the wrist. It was essential that it be pushed back into place. The doctor needed me to hold him still, to hold his arm still as he pushed that bone back on top where it belonged.

    My son had a lot of pain. I didn’t want to hold him still while he endured that pain. But I intended to. I did it.

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      40 minutes ago

      And all those events were planned under the lense of calvinism which you had no control of planning it yourself so predestination and no free will.

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        Well, Christianity presents us with many things with seemingly contradictory qualities that are nonetheless to be held in tension, and not resolved.

        For instance, Jesus Himself is fully man, and fully God. Not half and half. No division, no partiality. Completely 100% a man. And completely 100% God.

        Same with the Bible. Who wrote it? Humans, of course. Every word. AND…

        2 Timothy 3:16 ERV All Scripture is given by God. And all Scripture is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching the right way to live.

        There are earthly parallels as well. Light is both a wave and a particle (we’re still sorting that out). Schrödinger’s cat. There are lots of examples.

        There’s nothing unusual about a situation where God is fully in control of everything and humans have free will. It’s just hard to wrap your head around.