From someone that is in Sweden; it’s not as good as you might think it is. Sweden has together with the rest of the European countries started to militarize aggressively but without any factual threat. There is no talk about deescalation and focus on resolving the Ukraine war with diplomacy. Jeffrey Sachs among many prominent intellectual geopoliticians have long advocated for a peaceful solution. Even though USA has started dialogue with Russia, the European Commission is hellbent with to continue sponsoring a proxy war.
The peaceful solution is apparently total capitulation and appeasement to a country that seems bent on expansion. How stupid do you have to be to think it ends at Donetsk? The willful ignorance of history by every idiot that believes Putin “just wants peace” after repeatedly invading a country they had a peace accord with after the Cold War is astounding.
Fucking morons. With the big orange moron prominently selling out NATO at every opportunity, and another moron trying to buy elections in Europe to facilitate more moronic activity that’s going to lead to another war in Europe. And still there’s idiots that support this shit because there’s “too many immigrants let in” so they can have actual taxpayers funding their retirements since they don’t have kids themselves to keep the demographics up.
Sorry my friend, but if you believe there’s a peaceful solution, you’re either fooling yourself, or you’re a Russian plant.
Russia needs to be attacked outright by Europe. They have already subverted the American government without even firing a shot. You bet your ass they have the same plan for us.
The only peaceful solution in the Russian invasion of Ukraine is if Russia leaves Ukraine. That’s the ONLY peaceful solution. And that’s not bloody likely to happen.
There IS a factual threat. There should NOT be de-escalation in Ukraine. The way forward is through, not retreat, not capitulation to an expansionist despot. Do not use the US as a positive example here - that’s an insult to sane Americans as well as your fellow Europeans. You can be better than that.
This is actually the only misguided responses that Reddit is full of. The so called Russian threat against Sweden or other countries is an hoax that started with the us war propaganda. To neglect that militarization only escalates the current situation and to all of a sudden care so much about Ukraine,when the only dead ones are Ukrainians and Russian soldiers, while Scandinavians are sitting on the side line and pouring military aid…….that’s plain inhumane. You are welcome to supply any evidence of Russian invasion of Sweden.
If you let the invaders win, how do you think the future will look? They will look around and go for more. Giving Russia what they want is not the way.
It’s no use, people here are cheering for increased militarization and to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Any other approach is labeled as sympathy for Russia.
I beleive the Ukrainian government said something along the lines of “we’re willing to negotiate as long as there are assurances of support should Russia resume invading” and were told they would get no auch assurance from the US…
So is your positon
a) european countries should put boots on the ground
b) a country should stop their defence with no 3rd party guarantees of protection should promises get broken
c) Ukraine should be given such assurances of protection.
From what I’ve seen, the US and Europe have been content with just throwing money/military equipment at Ukraine to use as a drain on Russia’s resources, but there has been no support beyond that. Even with the billions that Biden pledged to Ukraine, there were a number of key instances where Ukraine asked for permission to use those weapons to strike at critical Russian infrastructure and they were denied. The impression I get is that Ukraine is being used by the west to stick it to a geopolitical rival with no regard for actual peace.
From someone that is in Sweden; it’s not as good as you might think it is. Sweden has together with the rest of the European countries started to militarize aggressively but without any factual threat. There is no talk about deescalation and focus on resolving the Ukraine war with diplomacy. Jeffrey Sachs among many prominent intellectual geopoliticians have long advocated for a peaceful solution. Even though USA has started dialogue with Russia, the European Commission is hellbent with to continue sponsoring a proxy war.
The peaceful solution is apparently total capitulation and appeasement to a country that seems bent on expansion. How stupid do you have to be to think it ends at Donetsk? The willful ignorance of history by every idiot that believes Putin “just wants peace” after repeatedly invading a country they had a peace accord with after the Cold War is astounding.
Fucking morons. With the big orange moron prominently selling out NATO at every opportunity, and another moron trying to buy elections in Europe to facilitate more moronic activity that’s going to lead to another war in Europe. And still there’s idiots that support this shit because there’s “too many immigrants let in” so they can have actual taxpayers funding their retirements since they don’t have kids themselves to keep the demographics up.
Sorry my friend, but if you believe there’s a peaceful solution, you’re either fooling yourself, or you’re a Russian plant.
Russia needs to be attacked outright by Europe. They have already subverted the American government without even firing a shot. You bet your ass they have the same plan for us.
Only one country has attacked Finland in the last 100 years and it wasn’t Sweden. And that country did it TWICE.
That’s why we militarise.
The only way to de-escalate with Russia is to beat them so hard that they surrender.
The only peaceful solution in the Russian invasion of Ukraine is if Russia leaves Ukraine. That’s the ONLY peaceful solution. And that’s not bloody likely to happen.
Anything else needs a militarized Europe.
There IS a factual threat. There should NOT be de-escalation in Ukraine. The way forward is through, not retreat, not capitulation to an expansionist despot. Do not use the US as a positive example here - that’s an insult to sane Americans as well as your fellow Europeans. You can be better than that.
This is actually the only misguided responses that Reddit is full of. The so called Russian threat against Sweden or other countries is an hoax that started with the us war propaganda. To neglect that militarization only escalates the current situation and to all of a sudden care so much about Ukraine,when the only dead ones are Ukrainians and Russian soldiers, while Scandinavians are sitting on the side line and pouring military aid…….that’s plain inhumane. You are welcome to supply any evidence of Russian invasion of Sweden.
Clearly a bot. Doesn’t even know which site it’s on.
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lol ok sure buddy. Blocking.
Redditors everywhere.this is why I can’t stand Reddit. No constructive discussion, and most have no understanding of the implications of war
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If you let the invaders win, how do you think the future will look? They will look around and go for more. Giving Russia what they want is not the way.
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It’s no use, people here are cheering for increased militarization and to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Any other approach is labeled as sympathy for Russia.
I beleive the Ukrainian government said something along the lines of “we’re willing to negotiate as long as there are assurances of support should Russia resume invading” and were told they would get no auch assurance from the US…
So is your positon
a) european countries should put boots on the ground
b) a country should stop their defence with no 3rd party guarantees of protection should promises get broken
c) something else?
c) Ukraine should be given such assurances of protection.
From what I’ve seen, the US and Europe have been content with just throwing money/military equipment at Ukraine to use as a drain on Russia’s resources, but there has been no support beyond that. Even with the billions that Biden pledged to Ukraine, there were a number of key instances where Ukraine asked for permission to use those weapons to strike at critical Russian infrastructure and they were denied. The impression I get is that Ukraine is being used by the west to stick it to a geopolitical rival with no regard for actual peace.