The plan is a response to US President Donald Trump’s proposal that the US could seize control of the Gaza Strip and turn it into ‘the Riviera of the Middle East.’

Britain, France, Germany and Italy on Saturday, March 8, backed a proposal by Muslim-majority nations to rebuild Gaza. The counter-proposal to US President Donald Trump’s plan to take over Gaza and displace its residents “promises – if implemented – swift and sustainable improvement of the catastrophic living conditions for the Palestinians living in Gaza,” the foreign ministers of the four countries said in a joint statement.

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    “The Gazans should topple Hamas” idea is tantamount to the old “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” idea. Gazans do not even have homes, or food, do you think they have any other internal structure they can pull on to coordinate anything?

    Do you know who has kept Hamas in power? Who has refused any deal that involves any other ready group like the PA from taking the reigns? Who would absolutely kill any upstart organization? Israel.

    At this point, Hamas is a puppet boogie man that conservative Israelis have to prop up because Hamas is their “slaughter Gazans for free” card.

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      there are millions of gazans in gaza. there are refugee centers where the israelis dont attack. afaik and there are many more 100 000s of gazans safe in other countries. the ceasefire is a good start. imo

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        15 hours ago

        All of your responses are non-sequitors to my points and your initial argument.

        1. I googled if Gaza has refugee camps that are safe from Israeli attack, because that is counter to 15mo of news. Do you have a source? That is somehow more credible than dozens of international news articles and experts saying “no where in Gaza is safe”? Story after story of Gazans following evacuation routes directed by the IDF that the IDF then attack.

        2. For the sake of argument, let’s say that there are refugee camps that are safe. As you say - there are millions of Gazans. They all need to be safe. They all need access to safety because they are human beings.

        3. What is your point about ‘100,000 Gazans safe in other countries’? I think you mean that there are ‘enough’ outside that it is ‘ok’ to exterminate the ones still trapped in Gaza because their ‘lineage’ is preserved.

        Humans are not a variety of carrot. We don’t say it’s ok to kill some percentage of a people just as long as we don’t kill them all. Hitler could have said it was ok to kill all the Jews in Europe because there are ‘enough’ in the US. It would still have been wrong to kill any Jews in Europe for being Jewish, just as it is wrong for Israel to attack Palestinian civilians for being Palestinian.

        Every person has a right to their own individual life that should not be taken by any state because they are the wrong ethnicity in the wrong place. Genocide is wrong at the scale of individual people.

        That is the heart of human rights, and you misunderstand that at your own peril.

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          • On February 2, an Israeli airstrike on the Nuseirat refugee camp resulted in the death of one child and injured several others. Additionally, a 13-year-old child was shot dead by Israeli forces in Rafah on February 5 .
          • On February 28, two Palestinian civilians, including a five-year-old child, were killed by Israeli attacks while trying to return to Northern Gaza .

          These incidents highlight the ongoing tensions and violence despite the ceasefire agreements.

          Millions of Gazans in the Camps and 2 dead in a month while a war is going on.