• grue@lemmy.world
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    Mexicans are Native Americans. The “black people” part of what you wrote is the only real difference.

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      They’re certainly native to the Americas, but they’re descended from a drastically different culture than the ones in the eventual US and Canada and targeted a lot more. I feel it’s accurate to differentiate Mexicans from (for example) Sioux or Navajo or Pequot, particularly when talking about modern day race relations in the United States.

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        Being oppressed isn’t a contest.

        That said, if you think Mexicans have been oppressed more by the US than the natives living further north, you should probably study your history better. At least folks of Aztec descent still exist in significant numbers, instead of having been mostly killed off!

        Also don’t forget about the millions of people native to former northern Mexico (Texas, California, and the land between) who became American citizens by virtue of those territories being ceded to the US, then later got deported anyway.

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          Being oppressed isn’t a contest.

          What a stupid thing to say. It doesn’t need to be a contest. Some groups are targeted more, that’s just statement of fact. I doubt the ones that are targeted less feel like they’ve won anything.

          if you think Mexicans have been oppressed more by the US than the natives living further north, you should probably study your history better

          I’m not talking about history. I’m talking about the modern day. If you believe the trail of tears was within the last hundred years, you should probably study your history better.

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            24 hours ago

            Fine, if that’s how you want this conversation to go:

            If you believe the US is currently oppressing Mexicans more than it’s oppressing Native Americans, right now in the modern day, you’re just fucking ignorant of everything, let alone history.

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      24 hours ago

      Modern Mexicans are mostly Mestizo, mixed Spanish and indigenous peoples (Aztec, Maya, etc.).

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        24 hours ago

        So are most US Native Americans and Canadian First Nations folks.