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Measels can reset your immune systems memory of how to fight other pathogens:
https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia
They’re gambling with a lot more here than measels.
Whoops forgot to educate your populace.
Education can’t fix it (lead horse to water …)
A less intentionally broken education system would reduce the scale of the harm done.
It isn’t the education system. American culture celebrates a proud level of ignorance. I see it here all the time.
I suspect that’s an effect of the under-education of our country. A more functional education system would probably produce fewer proudly ignorant people.
Nah I grew up rich. My public school was ranked among the top ten in the nation at the time. It still produced a lot of dummies that have great jobs in finance and business.
It isn’t under education. It is the cultural celebration of individualism in the face of the advice from the relevant academic sectors that is an issue. I know too many people here who will agree with the phrase “The experts don’t know what they are talking about” while overlooking the fact that they lack the education or experience to make that call.
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What do you think can?
Stiff penalties for not vaccinating, and a local and state government less corrupt that is able to provide enforcement and better assistance.
I don’t get the education angle here, the anti vaccination parents can’t be fixed like that, and many of them were not educated in the state ; but they can be made to follow health codes.
That said, Texas needs better education system. But this another issue entirely
We need to stop letting people refuse to vaccinate purely on philosophical grounds. If you claim a religious reason for not getting vaccinated then your group better officially have that position. In my home state, New Jersey, most who refuse to vaccinate are not part of a faith that bans vaccinations.
I like having no exemptions except medical due to other health conditions . It used to be this way in most places until the generations who suffered the diseases moved on
Large religious communities who hate vaccinations, will only respond to large fines against the parents.
The religious part should be very specifically focused on groups that literally have a blanket opposition to vaccines that is previously well documented. In NJ it is largely ultra orthodox Jewish families, whose sects tend to not oppose vaccines, and parents with philosophical objections that avoid vaccination.
And the religious community in Texas that is ground zero to this outbreak? I bet they have generations of documented “insights” and prayer. These go deep, and are not just a fly by night community, and there are many of these.
Vaccinations for all I think. These fuckers travel
in Texas? measles
I know the article says this is just something going around on social media, but fuck me, sometimes I go to a dark place and think maybe measles should win. Maybe evolution needs to cull this dipshittery.
Then I think of the kids who don’t have a choice. Why are people so fucking dumb?
Maybe evolution needs to cull this dipshittery.
Okay here’s the issue, the parents who are pushing this are probably vaccinated for measles.
As a smart kid born to absolutely dumb as living fuck parents, genetics does not mean two stupid parents automatically beget a stupid child.
So in your proposed scenario you’re risking killing intelligent children whose worst crime was being born to absolute fucking idiots.
Exactly, hence the last sentence of my comment.
Evolution is cruel, and if that particular strain of stupid results in fewer successful offspring, maybe we’re better off as a species.
I definitely read too much science fiction and think about this shit on a grand scale constantly, so sometimes I have to be reminded about being fucking human. And apparently these dumbass parents might need to be too.
Also, dumb children who don’t deserve measles. Say no to measles!
If good genetic material can be trained to be stupid as fuck which is a high probability with the parents in question. It’s unfortunate for the children, but probably best for society.
Look I just can’t help not responding to this. I need to emphasize this.
This is not how genetics actually works at all and what you are suggesting is fucking eugenics rooted in a complete misunderstanding of genetics. Go peddle what amounts to Nazi shit elsewhere fucking please. They misunderstood genetics in the same fucking way.
Maybe blow your load on the person who first inserted genetics into the conversation? I was just responding in-kind to them.
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OP provided that exact link.
I’m all for it, Darwin at work
No. We don’t need to condem the children of parents prone to disinformation.
Problem is the parents are mostly fine, because they were vaccinated. The victims are almost all children AFAIK.
Also if this continues, it will hit vaccinated people too, because vaccination is not 100%, but with high enough vaccination rates, it prevents the disease from spreading.Antivaxxers however prevent the rate of vaccination to be high enough in some communities!
22% of reported measles cases are vaccinated. Edit: Source
This is contrary to what the article says:
So far, 116 of the 146 cases are under the age of 18, with 46 being 4 or under. Only five of the 146 were vaccinated with at least one dose of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.
5/146 is ~3.4%
You can get measles when vaccinated, particularly if you only had one dose (the standard for people vaccinated before 1989) but it’s much much less likely.
Source for that claim please?
This Feb 26 article cited a 78% unvaccinated rate but looks like I can’t math and there’s been newer data since.
