• LouNeko@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Ok riddle me this. How can we normalize sex, if women have to walk on egg shells because any sign of platonic affection or romantical availability (in their eyes) will be met with unwanted approaches from certain parties.

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        8 hours ago

        Look, I was trying to come up with some good hearted explanation for men’s behavior (something about not being able to put themselves into womens shoes) because I didn’t want to get downvoted to shit again, but frankly I don’t care anymore.

        Because it mostly comes down to women being fucking horrible communicators and having chronic indecisiveness.

        Figure your shit out.

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          women being fucking horrible communicators

          That goes for society in general & we can’t pin that on women. Look at autists try to navigate social situations to observe how complicated neurotypicals make something that could be straightforward. Simple, clear directness often takes boldness & isn’t typically rewarded. Learning not to give a fuck takes effort.

          Women & people in general don’t know who they’re dealing with & don’t owe them much of anything.

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          6 hours ago

          ? I’m a Dominatrix, my experience of women and as a woman is that they are excellent communicators (women are actually famously good communicators) and not indecisive (unless you’re trying to be pushy and force them into something they dislike?). Both men and women who are new to exploring their sexuality will not know what they like, but that’s just part of being new to something.

          I’ve gone to sex clubs, try it some time. They usually have strict consent rules and staff to help deal with conflicts. Saying No is not usually an issue there, because there’s rules in place for how to approach women and what you must do when they say no.

          If a woman isn’t interested in discussing sex with men she doesn’t like, she doesn’t have to. It’s important to have and express boundaries - that’s a key part of healthy sex. That includes a boundary of not talking about sex with men she doesn’t want to.

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            Don’t you think that a little biased? We can all pick some fring cases from bith sides of the bell curve but thats not in good faith. Businesses like sex clubs kind of depend on clear communication, don’t they? So people who can’t adhere to that naturaly get filtered out.

            But if the stakes are lowered, most men’s experience is that women are barely comprehensible.

            “What restaurant do you want to go to?”

            “Do you know what you’re going to wear tonight?”

            “Should we get those curtains, or the other ones?”

            “Do you also want fries with your Burger, too?”

            “What soap do you think smells better?”

            As a side note, recently got a new room mate and on the first evening we randomly chatted about our music taste for 2 hours straight.
            I’ll be damned if I even get a favorite genre out of a woman, yet alone a song. It’s insanity. Women don’t even know what they like themselves.

            It think the main difference is that women like having options just as much as having the actual thing. When pressed to make a decision on the spot they tend to divert. Women tend to make better informed decisions but can’t fully communicate their decision making process, while men like to get the decision out if the way quickly. Men usually don’t like to keep things open because they don’t know when another opportunity is going to arise or if there’s even going to be another one at all.

            I know it’s hard to believe but men tend to not get a lot of options when it comes to most things, despite this being a “man’s world”. Businesses love men more because we are so easily replaceable, not because we “know what’s up”. Everywhere in the world men get swallowed, chewed out and spit out, the more so, the more men try to cling to every bit of power they can get. Usually if a man complains about his comfort it’s not because something simply bothers him but because conditions have gotten borderline hell-like. Men aren’t just opportunistic, we make decisions faster because when we are finally presented with one we are in the verge of collapse, so the quickest most simple solution is usually the best in our eyes. I feel like women don’t see that about men. They see the options that men get (that they maybe don’t get themselves) without understanding why this option is there in the first place. Men don"t get opportunities out of the kindess of others hearts, men get get them to keep them mildly contempt.

            Do women think that men aren’t scared if other men, and what they might do? Why is fear monopolized by women? Men try to keep themselves happy because who else is going to do all the dirty work that need to be done to keep this rock spinning?